big daddy Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I have been thinking about getting a 9mm upper for my STI. I know I would be scored minor but with the incresed mag compasity would that out way minor? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 NO! If you run a search the subject has come up in a number of threads and there seems to be a lot of theories on how you can win shooting minor but it just never seems to be the same in practice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Reloads are easier than scoring minor on partials and movers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdgun Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 Big Daddy, I have been doing for about a year now. It is definatelly an option. The only thing is you have got to call your shots a little better than shooting major. A few D hits will cost you big time. The long field courses with say 24-30 rounds you can get away with a D and a few Cs. But shoot a Classifier and drop a D and a couple of Cs, You screwed. You have to shoot As almost all the time. Good Luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I seem to recall that Julie G. shoots minor in Limited. It seems to work for her. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFD Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I've got several local guys beating me shooting minor at every match. I hope I turned that around yesterday with one of them, but they're still very competitive. I wouldn't do it by choice. Mostly I see IDPA crossover shooters with 9mm Glocks shooting Limited minor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 The real disadvantages are movers/swingers that's where it costs you on points. i shoot my production rig in limited some times, i've done pretty well with it. It really doesn't help reloading just gives you a couple more options, because round counts work out close enough if one limited shooter has to reload all do.. i believe 23 is max you can run of 9mm in a 140, possibly 24 counting the one in the pipe and specially tuned mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted January 8, 2006 Share Posted January 8, 2006 I would really recommend against it. The extra rounds will only help you on maybe 1 out of every 20 stages...and chances are the benefit will be negligable. Extra capacity in no way out weighs Major power factor scoring in Limited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Grube Posted January 9, 2006 Share Posted January 9, 2006 (edited) Matt tried it a couple years ago at Nats and said never again. The small difference in recoil and capacity won't make up for the difference in scoring. Don't go based on somebody saying that they are getting beat by somebody shooting minor... they would still get beat by the same guy if he was shooting major it would just be beaten by more points. You have to compare apples to apples. Edited January 9, 2006 by Chriss Grube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
big daddy Posted January 9, 2006 Author Share Posted January 9, 2006 Well thanks for the replys. I also took the advice and did a search on the topic and it sounds like it might not be much of an advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sturmruger Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 After shooting a couple of matches with major scoring I think it sucks to shoot minor, but I love shooting my production gun so I think I will still mostly shoot production this next year. Buy the 9mm slide for practice that shouldn't hurt anything. Congrats on your first post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GENE S Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 I shoot 38 sup Minor in limited and L-10. and think it is the way to go. More rounds to play with, little to no recoil. cycles faster than the 45, and you don't have to reload a new calaber. I am looking into getting a 38 sup slide and barel for my S/S gun and use that rather then the 45. Gene Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
al503 Posted January 12, 2006 Share Posted January 12, 2006 (edited) From a different perspective, practice would be a lot cheaper with 9's. A .40 jhp runs me $.024 / round than 9mm jhp. Yes, I'm a cheap a$$. Edited January 12, 2006 by al503 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 (edited) Shooting minor in Limited or Open just about always hurts your overall score. Let's say you can shoot splits on each target that are about 20% faster with minor than with your Major loads - does that mean your hit factor will be 20% better? No. Because of all the time you have to spend drawing from the holster or better yet scooping the gun off a table then loading it before the first shot. Then moving into positions, presenting the gun onto the first target in an array, opening doors... your hit factor goes from Beep to Last Shot Fired. Let's say you shoot a bunch of targets with hits of A and C. In Major that's 9 points on the target, you gave away 10% of your points for those 2 shots. In minor, Alpha-Charlie is 8 points, gave away 20% of your points. Are you now going to run to the next array & set up that much faster? Probably not. The difference in mag capacity, going from 19+1 to 23+1 or whatever - that's going to gain you like 5 match points once-twice every 10 stages. Unless your local matches put up 22-round stages again & again, or you need 22 to complete an 18-round stage, there's really no gain. Edited January 13, 2006 by eric nielsen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Middle Man Posted January 13, 2006 Share Posted January 13, 2006 (edited) It is darn near impossible to argue with Eric's logic in regard the competitive aspects of limited minor. On the other hand if you happen to be a frugal soul, an eccentric mind, or if you have an affinity for a certain pistol that can only fit in Limited that also happens to be a 9mm...well then break out the CZ 75 Single Action, to hell with logic...smoke em if you got em. What fun! Yeah, this is a big thread drift from a STI 9mm upper... Edited January 13, 2006 by Middle Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted February 7, 2006 Share Posted February 7, 2006 (edited) this has all been covered before, but another $.02 I asked TGO about this back at one of the SSC matches, where you are looking at a 25% increase in mag capacity going to minor. (8 vs. 10) He said he'd considered it, and that on open targets, he thought he could do it, but as has been said here ad nauseum, on paritals, distance, and swingers, and shooting on the move, minor just kills you. Besides, the best guys are shooting roughly 95% of the points on average. That means almost no CHARLIES shooting minor. And that's a slow, no shooting on the move snooze fest. Take a 24 round field course, where your mag capacity should make the difference. Shooting major and wanting 95% of the points, I can shoot 6 charlies, you only get THREE!!! No Thanks, I’ll hit the reload. Edited February 7, 2006 by dirtypool40 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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