GKB Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 ROFL. Went out and got a domain name. But you haven't become obsessed with this or anything.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Maybe have a button for 'all time' shooters with the expired and old ones included? Might be interesting from a historical perspective for shooters that aren't shooting anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoops Posted November 27, 2023 Share Posted November 27, 2023 Now you’re just showing off This is awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrdoran Posted December 1, 2023 Author Share Posted December 1, 2023 Weekly Recalculation update: http://steelrankings.com/ Added a total at the top of each division page so you know total shooters in ranking Most recent weekly SC match results obtain new USPSA numbers for inclusion ( there are like 4 - 10new matches daily ) Most recent shooter updated classifications from SCSA Expired USPSA membership excluded from Rankings ( There are many ) Coming soon -- 2024 Classification Calculator See how Rankings and your classification change on January 1st, 2024 New 2024 peak times Expire those stage classifications which are pre-2022 - SCSA:Only stages shot in the current or previous two calendar years are used for classification Thanks to those who emailed me with questions and bugs. Special thanks to @bravobravo for Cliff's efforts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKB Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 [First World Minor Issue] From the main page, clicking on a Division opens a new tab to display it. Selecting the BACK TO MAIN PAGE link does return it to the main page, but now you have 2 tabs open on the main page (since it created a new one to show the rankings for the division). Can the link from the main page not open a new tab? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrdoran Posted December 1, 2023 Author Share Posted December 1, 2023 Just now, GKB said: [First World Minor Issue] From the main page, clicking on a Division opens a new tab to display it. Selecting the BACK TO MAIN PAGE link does return it to the main page, but now you have 2 tabs open on the main page (since it created a new one to show the rankings for the division). Can the link from the main page not open a new tab? Sure, it was intentional on my part to open a new tab as I debug side by side, but I agree; PITA for most usage. Thanks Gary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKB Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 While I can do it manually by dumping to Excel, a nice future enhancement would be a page that has each division and the count/percentage of shooters that are 95%/GM, 85%/M, etc. (Yes, the actual percentage may not match what the Classification a person is grandfathered into, but this is what their Current ability level is.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKB Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 1.8% (11 of 604) of ISR shooters are shooting GM/95+% but 4.4% (200 of 4542) of RFRO shooters are GMs. Which makes me wonder.....is ISR harder to make GM (in which case the PSTs need to be adjusted up/down) or there just isn't the dedication to keep shooting the division that RFRO shooters have? In practice, each Division should have the same spread of Classifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoops Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 @GKB what is the total number of ISR shooters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrdoran Posted December 1, 2023 Author Share Posted December 1, 2023 (edited) 1 minute ago, Hoops said: @GKB what is the total number of ISR shooters? https://myenos.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/SCSA_Output/Iron Sight Revolver_USPSA_latest.html Top of the page 604. Edited December 1, 2023 by jrdoran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoops Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 24 minutes ago, jrdoran said: https://myenos.s3.us-east-2.amazonaws.com/SCSA_Output/Iron Sight Revolver_USPSA_latest.html Top of the page 604. Duh….i saw it in the original post. I’m a full count off today. lower percentage of GM’s in ISR probably is due to not that many serious revolver shooters dedicated enough to reach GM. we get a few but it seems to be new guys or some who just are trying something new out. its an art form in my opinion to know how to stage revolver trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted December 1, 2023 Share Posted December 1, 2023 5 hours ago, Hoops said: its an art form in my opinion to know how to stage revolver trigger. An art form I will never master. But I do like the "Weekly Recalculation". Nice to know where I stand in RFRO and RFPO. Keep up the excellent work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKB Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) Interesting.....Here are the Divisions sorted by highest percentage of GMs. Observations 1. There are more ISR and OSR shooters than PCCI. 2. PCCI has the highest percentage of GMs. Wonder if that is just GMs shooting PCCO go ahead and shoot PCCI since it's so similar? It would be interesting to pull all of the PCCI GMs and see what their classification is in PCCO. (Which I may get compelled enough to do but I'm not that motivated today.) Or if there is a RFRx crossover with PCCx? 2. Surprised at the low percentage of GMs in Prod and Open. Edited December 2, 2023 by GKB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WildPete Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 PCCI was the first division I made GM in. The times to make GM are on your side when shooting PCCI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKB Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 (edited) 11 minutes ago, WildPete said: PCCI was the first division I made GM in. The times to make GM are on your side when shooting PCCI. Which can explain why 5 stages are having their PSTs lowered for PCCI in 2024 to make it harder to get GM. (80 sec to 78.25, 1.75 sec overall reduction) However, CO is also having 5 stages lowered (94.0 to 92.50, 1.5 sec overall reduction) and only 1.1% of the CO shooters are GM (vs 13.9% for PCCI). I would argue (for 4,333 shooters which is a large data set), that CO is already too low based on the low percentage of GMs. BTW, the overall GM percentage is 2.9% for Steel Challenge (834 GMs in 28,577 active shooters). Edited December 2, 2023 by GKB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoops Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 57 minutes ago, GKB said: Interesting.....Here are the Divisions sorted by highest percentage of GMs. Observations 1. There are more ISR and OSR shooters than PCCI. 2. PCCI has the highest percentage of GMs. Wonder if that is just GMs shooting PCCO go ahead and shoot PCCI since it's so similar? It would be interesting to pull all of the PCCI GMs and see what their classification is in PCCO. (Which I may get compelled enough to do but I'm not that motivated today.) Or if there is a RFRx crossover with PCCx? 2. Surprised at the low percentage of GMs in Prod and Open. Before I make my initial thoughts on this I wonder what the percentages would look like taken from the 2023 WSSC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GKB Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 59 minutes ago, Hoops said: Before I make my initial thoughts on this I wonder what the percentages would look like taken from the 2023 WSSC? How does WSSC add clarification? By the classifications of the competitors or the scores in the match? Either way, the competitors here would be better than the average of all SC competitors. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoops Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 48 minutes ago, GKB said: How does WSSC add clarification? By the classifications of the competitors or the scores in the match? Either way, the competitors here would be better than the average of all SC competitors. The BOD folks that evaluate Peak Times use the WSSC as the basis for change. Perhaps one other Area match. I don’t know the data. Is this comparable to your spreadsheet I don’t know. What I have read is BOD concerns that there are too many GM’s….hence lowering peak times? Perhaps it’s me comparing apples to oranges? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shred Posted December 2, 2023 Share Posted December 2, 2023 7 hours ago, GKB said: 2. Surprised at the low percentage of GMs in Prod and Open. For Open I'd guess because the top shooters shoot Open so the peak times are most likely to be set by extremely good SC shooters vs just very good SC shooters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hoops Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 6 hours ago, GKB said: How does WSSC add clarification? By the classifications of the competitors or the scores in the match? Either way, the competitors here would be better than the average of all SC competitors. The percentage of GM’s in your spreadsheet was lower than what I would have guessed. So I was just wondering why USPSA.org thinks there are too many GM’s and subsequently uses the WSSC matches as basis of evaluating Peak Times. About 15%-18% of classified GM’s shoot at GM times for the WSSC 8 stage match. comparing ratios of the WSSC to your spreadsheet may not correlate equally? BTW….i like your spreadsheet. At least it shows classifications and percentages against the “field “. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squirrel45 Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 3 hours ago, shred said: For Open I'd guess because the top shooters shoot Open so the peak times are most likely to be set by extremely good SC shooters vs just very good SC shooters. They typically throw out percentages over 110% +/- into this calculation. It really comes down to how popular a certain division is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrdoran Posted December 3, 2023 Author Share Posted December 3, 2023 Quote 6. Only stages shot in the current or previous two calendar years are used for classification. So right now we are close the MAX calendar interval for shooters having almost 3 full years of match results eligible to be counted towards classification percentages. On 1/1/24, that will drop to 2 years and grow back throughout 2024 While I finish up the more typical 2024 ( 2022, 2023, 2024 ) classification future rankings, I think it will be interesting to see how classification results / ranking shape up if we just limit it to current year. Imagine on 1/124 if there are zero results and then as match results are generated, then classification results are counted. So as January, February, etc roll out, more and more match results are counted for 'current year'. This certainly favors warm weather shooters to get an early jump and doesn't fair well for those resting on prior year accomplishments. As the code to generate the current year is very similar to the normal classification rankings, I'll add this. I think it will be fun to see the list build throughout the year. Note as always, I have no official SCSA role and only do this stuff for interesting analysis ( thank you every one ). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadStrawBerryCounter Posted December 3, 2023 Share Posted December 3, 2023 @jrdoran appears you have SC-104 for rimfire rifle open listed incorrectly in your 2023/2024 proposed peak stage times. Shouldn't it be 10.75? I'm sourcing my data from May 23, 2023 SCSA PST Adjustments 2024 USPSA BOD minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jrdoran Posted December 4, 2023 Author Share Posted December 4, 2023 13 hours ago, HeadStrawBerryCounter said: @jrdoran appears you have SC-104 for rimfire rifle open listed incorrectly in your 2023/2024 proposed peak stage times. Shouldn't it be 10.75? I'm sourcing my data from May 23, 2023 SCSA PST Adjustments 2024 USPSA BOD minutes. Thank you for the close eye. Typo on my part. Fixed it on the page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HeadStrawBerryCounter Posted December 4, 2023 Share Posted December 4, 2023 7 hours ago, jrdoran said: Thank you for the close eye. Typo on my part. Fixed it on the page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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