650 loaded round not ejecting - jamming

[renaissance7697]

Loading 38spl

650 "Jams" about once in 10 to 20 rounds/strokes of lever.

Problem is in "pushing off" the completed round

From the shell plate into the finished cartridge bin.

All I have to do is:

Ease off pressure on the operating lever....

then gently "twist" the completed round in the shellplate slot

till it comes out, and falls into the bin.

but

It is getting to be a PITA.

I have examined the shellplate slots/stations

I could not see any "burs"...but

I wire brushed (by hand - not dermel) anyway

Didn't seem to help any.

Should I ( is it ok to) put a dab of grease on the push off wire??

In the shots of the shell plate??

Anybody got any suggestions

( I DID e-mail Dillon....have not heard back from them yet )

[Sherwyn]

Loading 38spl

650 "Jams" about once in 10 to 20 rounds/strokes of lever.

Problem is in "pushing off" the completed round

From the shell plate into the finished cartridge bin.

Anybody got any suggestions

( I DID e-mail Dillon....have not heard back from them yet )

Check the ejection wire, it needs to be as low as possible.

Sometimes has to be rebent to stay in position.

If that does not help - watch to see if it is always the same slot in the shell plate. I have broken the lower lips of the shell plate, but that usually caused priming problems.

Sherwyn

[AlamoShooter]

Yep the wire can be a pig, too low can make it drag too high and it comes louse.

If you were going fast on the first jam you may have bent it.

I get polishing media bits some times in the shell plate but that makes the primer act off line. I take a bent paper clip and scrape out the shell plate lips.

[rishii]

I get polishing media bits some times in the shell plate but that makes the primer act off line. I take a bent paper clip and scrape out the shell plate lips.

I do something similar, but use a old case, cut notches in the rim, stick in the shell plate and spin.

[scooterj]

check the rim of the next round that fails to eject. the brass may be the culprit

[ChuckS]

My 650 did the same thing. The problem turned out to be a burr on one of the shellplate stations. Clean up with some sandpaper did the trick.

[kevin c]

check the rim of the next round that fails to eject. the brass may be the culprit

+l

Not in .38 spl, but in .40 S&W, I'd get fat extractor rimmed cases that would jam on the wire. Those same cases would also be "sticky" going into the shell plate unless rotated "just so". The extractor groove was not concentric, but oval, and would fit into the shellplate in the first station either by chance or with manipulation, but would rotate in the shellholder and then jam in the last station.

I checked, and my shellplates were ok.

kevin c

Edited November 27, 2005 by kevin c

[dillon]

Is it any one particular brand of brass that refuses to eject from the shellplate? On another forum there was a similar issue, ended up being S&B cases that had irregular and/or oversized rims.

[kevin c]

For me, in 40 S&W, it was always Winchester brand brass that did it. This was in factory ammo once fired cases that I shot from my own guns, as well as once fired from other folks' guns, so I don't think that it was chamber/gun specific. This is through two SDB 40/10mm shell plates, and was not specific to the station on the plates.

Never have shot S&B, so I don't know if I would have the same problem.

Edited December 6, 2005 by kevin c