Russty Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 With the rule change allowing magnets in Production, what are people running? Stoeger's After Dark podcast stated that, in effect, magnets are required, now. But, how to run them? I'm thinking 2 open magnets on the front of the belt for unloaded table starts to slap 2 magazines on. But, should I (down the road) switch to magnetic holders for ALL my magazines? Are the magnet magazine holders quicker to use in general? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChewycookie Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) I currently prefer just 1 magnet on, or right in front of my first pouch for unloaded starts with mags on table. Any normal reloads I prefer normal adjustable retention pouches for a more consistent grab. There are companies producing magnet retention pouches that have a plastic or metal skeleton that limits movement such as Black Scorpion, DAA, or Ghost, but you will need to do cost analysis and possibly try one so see if its worth it. Edited March 22, 2021 by TheChewycookie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russty Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) Thanks! I was thinking non-magnetic was better for regular reloads. And, saves me $$. You are high cap, though, right? So, I'd need 2 magnets to get the same capacity. Edited March 22, 2021 by Russty Clarity Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheChewycookie Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 37 minutes ago, Russty said: Thanks! I was thinking non-magnetic was better for regular reloads. And, saves me $$. You are high cap, though, right? So, I'd need 2 magnets to get the same capacity. Yes, I'm primarily in Carry Optics. I wouldn't normally think most stage designers would force people into a situation where shooters have to load pouches. I don't see a massive advantage with multiple magnets even for low cap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russty Posted March 22, 2021 Author Share Posted March 22, 2021 I'm a new guy, less than one year in, and I've had to load pouches twice. So, not a massive advantage, but a few seconds when I can get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadside72 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 just don't forget that distance requirements still apply Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, broadside72 said: just don't forget that distance requirements still apply Distance requirements? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 39 minutes ago, mreed911 said: Distance requirements? Research it. There are max allowables from belt to pouch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
broadside72 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 (edited) Distance from inside of belt to magazine still applies if you are putting/using mags on the magnets during the course of fire (remember, when you ULSC, you are still in the COF) Edited March 22, 2021 by broadside72 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakay Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 2 hours ago, broadside72 said: just don't forget that distance requirements still apply until the next revision...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 3 hours ago, Balakay said: until the next revision...lol Indeed. If they are now catering to tactical guys, how long before drop leg holsters, tie down rigs are allowed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 4 minutes ago, Sarge said: Indeed. If they are now catering to tactical guys, how long before drop leg holsters, tie down rigs are allowed? Chest rig. Man-tits will keep them from breaking the 180. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted March 22, 2021 Share Posted March 22, 2021 21 minutes ago, mreed911 said: Chest rig. Man-tits will keep them from breaking the 180. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SGT_Schultz Posted March 23, 2021 Share Posted March 23, 2021 19 hours ago, Russty said: Stoeger's After Dark podcast stated that, in effect, magnets are required, now. Is that so? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevrend Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 On 3/22/2021 at 7:09 PM, Sarge said: Indeed. If they are now catering to tactical guys, how long before drop leg holsters, tie down rigs are allowed? What is the issue with a tie-down rig? Seems like a silly nit-pick when holsters are allowed to be skeletonized and custom adjustable can't and barely any retention once a switch is turned off. If we allow that sort of thing, what's wrong with something simply keeping a holster in place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 2 minutes ago, Kevrend said: What is the issue with a tie-down rig? Seems like a silly nit-pick when holsters are allowed to be skeletonized and custom adjustable can't and barely any retention once a switch is turned off. If we allow that sort of thing, what's wrong with something simply keeping a holster in place? Is there a tie-down rig that meets the requirements of 5.2.7.2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevrend Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 14 minutes ago, mreed911 said: Is there a tie-down rig that meets the requirements of 5.2.7.2? A lot of guys are adding straps to the bottoms of their safariland holsters. The butt of the handgun is still above the belt, but there's one strap around the thigh in the groin area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mreed911 Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 5 minutes ago, Kevrend said: A lot of guys are adding straps to the bottoms of their safariland holsters. The butt of the handgun is still above the belt, but there's one strap around the thigh in the groin area. If true, that's against the rules. The glossary defines that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevrend Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 (edited) 2 minutes ago, mreed911 said: If true, that's against the rules. The glossary defines that. You're missing what I'm saying. I'm stating that outside of USPSA and gaming, lots of guys who shoot with defensive purpose in mind are running rigs like this. Thigh rigs are disappearing, but the individual strap around the thigh is becoming the new norm. My point is that we allow a lot of very specialized gear in things like Open division, so why would we say that thigh straps are a no go? Edit: I recognize it's not allowed in the rulebook. I'm saying "why?" Edited May 3, 2021 by Kevrend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balakay Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 9 minutes ago, Kevrend said: You're missing what I'm saying. I'm stating that outside of USPSA and gaming, lots of guys who shoot with defensive purpose in mind are running rigs like this. Thigh rigs are disappearing, but the individual strap around the thigh is becoming the new norm. My point is that we allow a lot of very specialized gear in things like Open division, so why would we say that thigh straps are a no go? Edit: I recognize it's not allowed in the rulebook. I'm saying "why?" Why not have the timmies just run their franken-holster in Open and call it a day. Not going to be competitive in Open or Production so why care? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted May 3, 2021 Share Posted May 3, 2021 3 hours ago, Kevrend said: You're missing what I'm saying. I'm stating that outside of USPSA and gaming, lots of guys who shoot with defensive purpose in mind are running rigs like this. Thigh rigs are disappearing, but the individual strap around the thigh is becoming the new norm. My point is that we allow a lot of very specialized gear in things like Open division, so why would we say that thigh straps are a no go? Edit: I recognize it's not allowed in the rulebook. I'm saying "why?" I “BELIEVE “ the origin of the rule is to prevent the image of gunslingers to the general public. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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