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Single stack missing major PF - load to ten?


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41 minutes ago, RJH said:

I was all ready to say that there was a 355 requirement, same as for making minor, but then I looked at the appendix and it said no requirement. Which begs the question could you show up with a hot 3220 and shoot revolver major? Maybe a topic for another thread haha

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4 Minimum bullet caliber/cartridge case length       .38 cal. / 9x19 mm (0.354” x 0.748”)

 

Its there just a division requirement 

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As stated before. If you fail chrono in single stack and your power changes to minor, you can now load to 10 if it fits in your mags.

Appendix D5 reads:

"9 Maximum ammunition capacity

Yes, maximum rounds loaded in any magazine after
the start signal.
• Major Power Factor - 8 rounds
• Minor Power Factor - 10 rounds"

Note there is -no- language regarding declaration of power factor.

Contrast this to Appendix D6 for revolver.

"9 Maximum ammunition capacity

No, maximum of 6 rounds fired before reload if Major PF declared, 8 if minor PF declared."

Note the -inclusion- the term declared. By comparing these two divisions we can see that single stack rules only refer to your power factor, not your original declared one power factor. After chrono, your power factor can change.

There is no support in the rules for a power factor change. Under the rules of single stack or revo divisions major and minor get differing amounts of ammunition. If you load more, you no longer meet division requirements and you are bumped to open under rule 6.2.5.1.

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17 hours ago, PatJones said:

As stated before. If you fail chrono in single stack and your power changes to minor, you can now load to 10 if it fits in your mags.

Appendix D5 reads:

"9 Maximum ammunition capacity

Yes, maximum rounds loaded in any magazine after
the start signal.
• Major Power Factor - 8 rounds
• Minor Power Factor - 10 rounds"

Note there is -no- language regarding declaration of power factor.

Contrast this to Appendix D6 for revolver.

"9 Maximum ammunition capacity

No, maximum of 6 rounds fired before reload if Major PF declared, 8 if minor PF declared."

Note the -inclusion- the term declared. By comparing these two divisions we can see that single stack rules only refer to your power factor, not your original declared one power factor. After chrono, your power factor can change.

There is no support in the rules for a power factor change. Under the rules of single stack or revo divisions major and minor get differing amounts of ammunition. If you load more, you no longer meet division requirements and you are bumped to open under rule 6.2.5.1.
 

that's very good I never noticed the declaration was missing in SS by re reading that and comparing it to how revo is written it makes a good case for loading 9 or 10 while declared major being a switch to minor just like chronoing 164.9 is a switch to minor,, seems like the same opps sorry switch me to minor would apply both ways if the shooters Declaration does not matter.

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