Dirtchevy841 Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 (edited) Ok I am stumped. Have no clue what’s causing this. A friend is having a problem with his 650 loading 9mm swamp popper 125 gr bullets. When it gets flared in the powder die the bullet drops into the case completely. I told him check the powder funnel for right size 9mm check dies etc but when you bell it just enough the bullet is still able to push down into case completely. Never seen this before with my Reloading Told him to go back to where it was to much flare and work Down the bell still didn’t work. Told him to start where it wasn’t enough an add bell still the same story. Wtf. Why is the bullet still dropping into the case after belling like this. It’s just crazy that it dies this. Over 10 years reloading never seen this. I am not there with them but I can’t think of what it is other than the powder funnel is wrong. It literally drops into the case by itself Edited January 27, 2019 by Dirtchevy841 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwikel Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 It sounds like the brass isn't getting sized down to spec. If he has a case gage have him check a case in the gage after it is sized. He should also check the diameter of the bullets for undersizing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 1 hour ago, bwikel said: It sounds like the brass isn't getting sized down to spec. If he has a case gage have him check a case in the gage after it is sized. He should also check the diameter of the bullets for undersizing. Did both of those things. .356 diameter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
molson Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Dirtchevy, Do these bullets drop into the case after flared on your 9mm setup? Assuming you are also set up to load 9mm. If you are not, find somebody that is. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Sounds like sizing die isn’t turned down far enough is my first thought. Should be just kissing shell plate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 7 hours ago, Dirtchevy841 said: Did both of those things. .356 diameter If the brass has been resized completely and correctly, the bullet cannot drop into the brass - physically impossible. Unless the bullet is sized .354 or less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 32 minutes ago, Hi-Power Jack said: If the brass has been resized completely and correctly, the bullet cannot drop into the brass - physically impossible. Unless the bullet is sized .354 or less. I did tell him to resize a case and put bullet on and see if it goes in he said it didn’t. It’s only after it’s been belled by funnel that this is happening. I am not there so I am going by what I am being told but I can tell you it’s strange. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Have him size only and see if a bullet drops in. other than that check to make sure funnel is correct Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 If the bullet is .356, it sounds as though the case isn't being sized correctly or something strange is happening when the case is belled. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtchevy841 Posted January 27, 2019 Author Share Posted January 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, Sarge said: Have him size only and see if a bullet drops in. other than that check to make sure funnel is correct Did that it doesn’t drop in. Only drops after belling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Have him check the outside diameter of the case prior to belling and then after belling - both measurements about midway in the case. If that changes then something is incorrect about the belling part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HesedTech Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 If the die is correct for 9mm and is a Dillon there is no way after belling the bullet could slide easily into the case. Somethings wrong with the die, how it’s set up or the powder funnel (assuming the bullets are .355 or greater). There isn’t much else to go wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 Only time my bullets dropped in the case, I had taken a piece of brass and NOT sized it - dropped right in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bwikel Posted January 27, 2019 Share Posted January 27, 2019 10 hours ago, Dirtchevy841 said: Did both of those things. .356 diameter If the bullet will fall into the case there is unlikely the sized case passed a case gage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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