Frogshooter Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Hi everyone. Yesterday during my training session I found my brand new Shadow 2 was shooting a little bit to the right (maybe like 1 to 2 inches to the right, I was standing 10 to 25 meters from the target, distance doesn't seem to worsen it). Two questions here: 1- Is this a serious issue ? The majority of shots are still in the A zone but I experienced numerous "near" C's, maybe they would be A's if I drifted my rear sight accordingly. Maybe I'm the one to blame, I dunno. 2- How can I drift the rear sight ? It was a pain in the a** removing my SP-01 sight to install a LPA one, I can imagine it will be the same scenario on the Shadow 2 (already removed the two screws, gave some tap using a brass punch and hammer: won't move at all.) Is anybody here ever used a sight pusher successfully on the S2 ? Thank you guys Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 If I were you, I’ll shoot it on a bench rest or bag to make sure it’s not the shooter. This way, you re certain it’s the sight that needs to be adjusted. Then I put a drop of oil and drift it using your brass punch and hammer. I drifted mine after bench firing it first to make sure it was the gun and not me making the gun shoot to the right of the POI. You just need to tap it a little bit harder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Are you left or right handed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogshooter Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 Thanks, I'll make sure it's not the shooter in the next few days, but I'm pretty confident the rear sight needs some windage adjustment. I'd really like to do it using a sight-pusher as it's pretty safe and it seems easy I'm right handed btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ173 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 If it was a sight issue, it should intensify at more distance. Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wespac78 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 I would Bench rest shoot and verify with someone else shooting (someone you know can shoot well) before drifting sight. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wespac78 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 And doesn't the Shadow 2 have a adjustable rear sight? I thought I did. Now I'm gonna have to check mine lol. Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZ173 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 It will adjust elevation but not windage Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wespac78 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Yep. Just looked. You are correct, sir. It will adjust elevation but not windage Sent from my SM-G955U using TapatalkSent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) https://czcustom.com/products/cz-gunsmith-tools/cz-rear-sight-pusher.html Expensive but quick and precise. Makes me crazy to not be able to adjust zero. If you get one, ignore the marks, turn screw till it stops, tighten screw about 1/4 to 1/2 turn & back off, turn screw until it stops and note how much farther the screw turned before you felt resistance. I'd typically start by moving the sight 1/4 turn & then see how much that changed point of aim and go from there. After you get used to it it is almost as fast and easy as just turning the windage screw on a standard adjustable sight. EDIT; - Double check that the Shadow 2 slide fits the grooves. Pretty sure I used it when I had a Shadow 2 but I have slept since then. Edited August 12, 2018 by IHAVEGAS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogshooter Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, IHAVEGAS said: https://czcustom.com/products/cz-gunsmith-tools/cz-rear-sight-pusher.html Expensive but quick and precise. Makes me crazy to not be able to adjust zero. If you get one, ignore the marks, turn screw till it stops, tighten screw about 1/4 to 1/2 turn & back off, turn screw until it stops and note how much farther the screw turned before you felt resistance. I'd typically start by moving the sight 1/4 turn & then see how much that changed point of aim and go from there. After you get used to it it is almost as fast and easy as just turning the windage screw on a standard adjustable sight. EDIT; - Double check that the Shadow 2 slide fits the grooves. Pretty sure I used it when I had a Shadow 2 but I have slept since then. Seems like the perfect tool for my case. I'm willing to pay the price but...CZ Custom won't ship in France. Don't know if a similar tool like this (available where I am) would do the job:https://www.armurerie-douillet.com/outil-de-reglage-universel-pour-arme-de--cat0-p5854.html Edited August 12, 2018 by Frogshooter Link Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wkj4567 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) I had the same issue with my Shadow 2 and coughed up then $ for the CZ sight pusher and it was fast and easy to get me zeroed in. Edited August 13, 2018 by wkj4567 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncie21 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 If you have Amazon in FR, try this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HU4NNDE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogshooter Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 (edited) 26 minutes ago, muncie21 said: If you have Amazon in FR, try this one https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01HU4NNDE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1 This sight pusher is easily available in France yes. I've e-mailed some fellow IPSC shooters who recommend this item, I guess I'll just order the tool and see by myself if I can drift this rear sight Edited August 13, 2018 by Frogshooter bad quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muncie21 Posted August 13, 2018 Share Posted August 13, 2018 Works good (I've used it on several CZs) just need to triple check everything is aligned and square before you start cranking on the adjustment handle. It will take some effort to move, however once the sight breaks free it's much easier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogshooter Posted August 13, 2018 Author Share Posted August 13, 2018 A few questions before ordering: 1- Do I need to heat the rear sight ? (is it locktited ?) 2- Do I need to use some oil ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IHAVEGAS Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Frogshooter said: A few questions before ordering: 1- Do I need to heat the rear sight ? (is it locktited ?) 2- Do I need to use some oil ? I never had to do anything but turn the pusher screw with CZ rear sights and the CZ pusher. On other guns with a multiple use pusher I have tightened the screw as much as felt wise and then tapped on the shaft of the pusher screw with a small hammer if the sight would not move. That has been sufficient so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trinimon Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 I use that same sight pusher. I didn't have to do anything on the sight other than loosen the locking screws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogshooter Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) Okay, so in the process of saving 80 euros (90 bucks), I decided to give this rear sight a try using a punch and a hammer. I noticed that the sight was a little bit off-centered to the right: it is consistent with the results I saw last saturday during my training session (shots hitting 2 inches to the right). I've duct-taped the sight to protect it and gave some solid taps: it worked ! Sight is now more or less centered, I'll go to the range tomorrow to confirm the success Off-topic question: I've just installed a 10lb recoil spring on my gun, is it normal for the guide rod to "go out" of the frame like this ? (sorry for my bad english ) Edited August 14, 2018 by Frogshooter typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NWfront Posted August 14, 2018 Share Posted August 14, 2018 (edited) 3 hours ago, Frogshooter said: Off-topic question: I've just installed a 10lb recoil spring on my gun, is it normal for the guide rod to "go out" of the frame like this ? (sorry for my bad english ) Rack the slide a few times and it should fall into place. If not just remove the guide rod then reinstall it and that should do the trick. Edited August 14, 2018 by NWfront Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogshooter Posted August 14, 2018 Author Share Posted August 14, 2018 Thank you very much, reinstalled the whole thing and now it's not bulging anymore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogshooter Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 Some 200 rounds later I can say my issue is solved Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
George16 Posted August 18, 2018 Share Posted August 18, 2018 1 hour ago, Frogshooter said: Some 200 rounds later I can say my issue is solved Glad to hear you got it all sorted out . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frogshooter Posted August 18, 2018 Author Share Posted August 18, 2018 Thanks ! Advice to all Shadow 2 owners: no need for a sight pusher, the rear sight should be easier to drift than on other CZs (my SP-01 rear sight was IMPOSSIBLE to drift, was locktited in factory I guess...). Just protect the rear sight using duct-tape, unscrew it, grab a punch and a medium hammer, one or two firm taps should do the job ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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