JMike Posted August 3, 2017 Share Posted August 3, 2017 I worked up a load for the 124 gr Truncated RMR FMJ. The round was shot out of a 5 inch M&P 9mm.I would imagine that this load would work well for any 124 gr FMJ bullet but as in all things, YMMV.Work up your own load for your own pistol.I really like how well this powder meters. Be sure to check out the SD for the different loads.Below is the load data: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
highhope Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 thanks a lot, will post mine date later after chrono Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Name: 9mm: 147gr: Cleanshot 3.5gr: Mixed Case: OAL 1.140 Notes: Para 1911 5" Shots: 7 Average: 901 ft/s SD: 12 ft/s Min: 874 ft/s Max: 912 ft/s Spread: 38 ft/s Power Factor Average: 132 Power Factor Low: 128 Power Factor High: 134 Barometric Pressure: 30 in Hg Temperature: 68 F Weight: 147.0 gr. Powder: Cleanshot 3.5gr Case: Mixed Primer: Rem SPP Bullet: 147gr Gun: Para 5" 1911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted May 15, 2023 Share Posted May 15, 2023 Name: 9mm: 124gr Xtreme RN: Cleanshot 4gr: Mixed Case: OAL 1.140 Notes: Para 1911 5" Shots: 13 Average: 1057 ft/s SD: 7 ft/s Min: 1044 ft/s Max: 1073 ft/s Spread: 29 ft/s Power Factor Average: 131 Power Factor Low: 129 Power Factor High: 133 Barometric Pressure: 30 in Hg Temperature: 69 F Weight: 124.0 gr. Powder: Cleanshot 4.0gr Case: Mixed Primer: Rem SPP Bullet: Xtreme 124gr RN OAL: 1.140 Gun: Para 5" 1911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbeavers1 Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 On 5/15/2023 at 1:05 PM, ysrracer said: Name: 9mm: 147gr: Cleanshot 3.5gr: Mixed Case: OAL 1.140 Notes: Para 1911 5" Shots: 7 Average: 901 ft/s SD: 12 ft/s Min: 874 ft/s Max: 912 ft/s Spread: 38 ft/s Power Factor Average: 132 Power Factor Low: 128 Power Factor High: 134 Barometric Pressure: 30 in Hg Temperature: 68 F Weight: 147.0 gr. Powder: Cleanshot 3.5gr Case: Mixed Primer: Rem SPP Bullet: 147gr Gun: Para 5" 1911 I tried to replicate this load but was only getting 835fps ave. That is out of a 3.4in g43 barrel. I am not finding much published load data for these. The Lovex data that i found only had 124gr and 153gr loads. The max for the 153gr load was 3.4gr at 951 fps. assume I can add another .1 or .2 safely with the 147gr FPs. See any issue if my MV is really that low? Average was across 2 mags (34rds). The only other thing I can think of is seating deeper. I am at 1.124in vs your 1.114in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddc Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 1 hour ago, mbeavers1 said: I tried to replicate this load but was only getting 835fps ave. That is out of a 3.4in g43 barrel. I am not finding much published load data for these. The Lovex data that i found only had 124gr and 153gr loads. The max for the 153gr load was 3.4gr at 951 fps. assume I can add another .1 or .2 safely with the 147gr FPs. See any issue if my MV is really that low? Average was across 2 mags (34rds). The only other thing I can think of is seating deeper. I am at 1.124in vs your 1.114in. Be careful; he is at 1.140, not 1.114... Also, the actual bullet you are using compared to his can have an impact. It is not obvious what bullet he is using for that recipe. His other recipe calls for Extreme Plated. If that data comes from using a plated bullet and you are using a jacketed bullet you are most likely going to be a bit slower than he is. Plus your barrel is 1.6" shorter than his. That all plays a part in how your gun/bullet reacts to a given recipe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 On 5/16/2023 at 4:05 AM, ysrracer said: Name: 9mm: 124gr Xtreme RN: Cleanshot 4gr: Mixed Case: OAL 1.140 Notes: Para 1911 5" Shots: 13 Average: 1057 ft/s SD: 7 ft/s Min: 1044 ft/s Max: 1073 ft/s Spread: 29 ft/s Power Factor Average: 131 Power Factor Low: 129 Power Factor High: 133 Barometric Pressure: 30 in Hg Temperature: 69 F Weight: 124.0 gr. Powder: Cleanshot 4.0gr Case: Mixed Primer: Rem SPP Bullet: Xtreme 124gr RN OAL: 1.140 Gun: Para 5" 1911 You shoot these in a 929 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 On 5/16/2023 at 4:05 AM, ysrracer said: Name: 9mm: 124gr Xtreme RN: Cleanshot 4gr: Mixed Case: OAL 1.140 Notes: Para 1911 5" Shots: 13 Average: 1057 ft/s SD: 7 ft/s Min: 1044 ft/s Max: 1073 ft/s Spread: 29 ft/s Power Factor Average: 131 Power Factor Low: 129 Power Factor High: 133 Barometric Pressure: 30 in Hg Temperature: 69 F Weight: 124.0 gr. Powder: Cleanshot 4.0gr Case: Mixed Primer: Rem SPP Bullet: Xtreme 124gr RN OAL: 1.140 Gun: Para 5" 1911 You shoot these in a 929 ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted July 1, 2023 Share Posted July 1, 2023 1 hour ago, Joe4d said: You shoot these in a 929 ? Para P 18.9 Custom semi auto Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, ysrracer said: Para P 18.9 Custom semi auto I see the para in the load data I was wondering if you had ever compared the same loads in a 929.. WIll try some loads between a XDM and a 929 if I ever get off this boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, ysrracer said: Para P 18.9 Custom semi auto I see the para in the load data I was wondering if you had ever compared the same loads in a 929.. WIll try some loads between a XDM and a 929 if I ever get off this boat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbeavers1 Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 7 hours ago, ddc said: Be careful; he is at 1.140, not 1.114... Also, the actual bullet you are using compared to his can have an impact. It is not obvious what bullet he is using for that recipe. His other recipe calls for Extreme Plated. If that data comes from using a plated bullet and you are using a jacketed bullet you are most likely going to be a bit slower than he is. Plus your barrel is 1.6" shorter than his. That all plays a part in how your gun/bullet reacts to a given recipe. Good catch on thr OAL! Thanks for that. I am running plated RMR 147 FPs with mixed brass and Ginex primers. I figured the barrel length was probably the biggest factor. I am not actively competing but want a load that gives me thr option (USPSA). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ddc Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 20 minutes ago, mbeavers1 said: Good catch on thr OAL! Thanks for that. I am running plated RMR 147 FPs with mixed brass and Ginex primers. I figured the barrel length was probably the biggest factor. I am not actively competing but want a load that gives me thr option (USPSA). Yeah, 835 fps is too light for 147's if you are looking for about a 130 power factor. Need to bump that up about 50 fps. I don't know enough about Cleanshot and 147's to know if that is a good idea. I use it with RMR 124 JHP and 124 FMJ for 130 PF without issue. The only problem I have with Cleanshot is that I can't find any. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted July 2, 2023 Share Posted July 2, 2023 18 minutes ago, mbeavers1 said: Good catch on thr OAL! Thanks for that. I am running plated RMR 147 FPs with mixed brass and Ginex primers. I figured the barrel length was probably the biggest factor. I am not actively competing but want a load that gives me thr option (USPSA). Looked through some older Accurate loads, and honestly your results seem alot closer to published data than YSRacers. Not sure what barrel he had but. the Para Ord ramped Barsto's are tight with pretty short chambers in 40.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mbeavers1 Posted July 10, 2023 Share Posted July 10, 2023 Have you guys ever seen this website? I found a link to it in one of the other threads on here. It shows taking CS up to 4gr with a 147gr bullet. The Shooters World site only had going to 3.7gr. http://www.natoreloading.com/d032/ I worked my way up to the SW max of 3.7 but found my MV to flatten out at about 850fps which puts me perilously close to 125pf minor limit. It seems strange that 3.5, 3.6, and 3.7gr would be the same. I was weighing my charged on my fx120 scale so I feel confident in the charges. OAL for all was 1.124". I checked about 10ea of them before cranking out 50ea on my 750. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaot1c Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 I've been working up a load with the 135gr RMR Matchwinner using Cleanshot. My experience with Cleanshot; it seems to produce much lower velocities than other folks are reporting. Yes, I understand barrel length and OAL have a lot to do with that. And I've also lost confidence in my chronograph. So, I ordered a Labradar unit from Midsouth. I'm hoping it comes in pretty soon. When it does, i'll post updates here. In the meantime... RMR 135MW @ 1.10OAL with 4.31gr Cleanshot Test pistol: 3.9" Sig 320 AXG Legion 10 shots Min: 941 Max: 970 Spread:29 Average: 954 SD: 8 Average Power Factor: 128 1- 956 fp/s 2- 950 fp/s 3- 953 fp/s 4- 962 fp/s 5- 947 fp/s 6- 957 fp/s 7- 961 fp/s 8- 970 fp/s 9- 941 fp/s 10-951 fp/s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ysrracer Posted July 11, 2023 Share Posted July 11, 2023 2 minutes ago, Khaot1c said: I've been working up a load with the 135gr RMR Matchwinner using Cleanshot. My experience with Cleanshot; it seems to produce much lower velocities than other folks are reporting. Yes, I understand barrel length and OAL have a lot to do with that. And I've also lost confidence in my chronograph. So, I ordered a Labradar unit from Midsouth. I'm hoping it comes in pretty soon. When it does, i'll post updates here. In the meantime... RMR 135MW @ 1.10OAL with 4.31gr Cleanshot Test pistol: 3.9" Sig 320 AXG Legion 10 shots Min: 941 Max: 970 Spread:29 Average: 954 SD: 8 Average Power Factor: 128 1- 956 fp/s 2- 950 fp/s 3- 953 fp/s 4- 962 fp/s 5- 947 fp/s 6- 957 fp/s 7- 961 fp/s 8- 970 fp/s 9- 941 fp/s 10-951 fp/s Your chrono is probably fine Name: 9mm: 124gr Xtreme RN: Cleanshot 4gr: Mixed Case: OAL 1.140 Notes: Para 1911 5" Shots: 13 Average: 1057 ft/s SD: 7 ft/s Min: 1044 ft/s Max: 1073 ft/s Spread: 29 ft/s Power Factor Average: 131 Power Factor Low: 129 Power Factor High: 133 Barometric Pressure: 30 in Hg Temperature: 69 F Weight: 124.0 gr. Powder: Cleanshot 4.0gr Case: Mixed Primer: Rem SPP Bullet: Xtreme 124gr RN OAL: 1.140 Gun: Para 5" 1911 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Khaot1c Posted July 13, 2023 Share Posted July 13, 2023 So I understand that Cleanshot is "reverse temperature sensitive". Which I take to mean, as the temperature rises, the velocity will drop. So, generally speaking, a work-up done in the summer will have lower numbers than the same load's performance in the winter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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