darthdively Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Hey folks. I could use some help finding an elite gold team 9mm open gun. I ordered the gun one night and it had to be cancelled because of faulty inventory system. Then placed a couple more orders at other places. Same story. Would anyone know of where a 2014-2016 may be hiding? Model number 600066. Unfortunately i purchased everything for the 9mm open gun already, it was a few days before it was cancelled so i though it was on the way, and now have no gun to put it on. If you direct me to a gun store that actually has one in stock and i'm able to purchase, i'll send you a $20 finders fee via paypal [emoji14] Thanks! Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 http://delta3outfitters.com/store/products/EAA-WIT-GOLD-9MM-18RD-CHR-3%2dPRT-COMP.html I could put it in the cart. May not be in stock, but.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdively Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 http://delta3outfitters.com/store/products/EAA-WIT-GOLD-9MM-18RD-CHR-3%2dPRT-COMP.html I could put it in the cart. May not be in stock, but.. Omg thanks! Placed an order. Once i find out if its on the way, i'll send you finders fee Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalShooter69 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 Don't go 9mm, go 38SC. Trust me... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 7 minutes ago, SoCalShooter69 said: Don't go 9mm, go 38SC. Trust me... Don't go 38SC, go 9mm. Trust me ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 I hope they actually have it and ship it out to you. They are great guns. Very little needed to make them run well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdively Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 If any of you have any other suggestions, still open to see them in case this place doesnt work out.Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalShooter69 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 2 minutes ago, darthdively said: If any of you have any other suggestions, still open to see them in case this place doesnt work out. Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk Out of curiosity, since you're set on 9 - what's your load data? 1 hour ago, Hi-Power Jack said: Don't go 38SC, go 9mm. Trust me ... What was your load data, PF, and pressure curve? If, in fact, you were running the V12 in 9, this could get interesting real quick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdively Posted June 15, 2017 Author Share Posted June 15, 2017 I dont have any load data yet. I have a very experienced open shooter that is going to assist me in load development.Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalShooter69 Posted June 15, 2017 Share Posted June 15, 2017 51 minutes ago, darthdively said: I dont have any load data yet. I have a very experienced open shooter that is going to assist me in load development. Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk Ah. Well, soon you will realize you should have gone 38sc w the GT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DesertTortoise Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Couple days ago I watched a dude throw out his back on a stage and then hobble around picking up his 38SC Go 9 Major and never pick up brass again Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalShooter69 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) 42 minutes ago, DesertTortoise said: Couple days ago I watched a dude throw out his back on a stage and then hobble around picking up his 38SC Go 9 Major and never pick up brass again Are you speaking from experience with a V12 GT in 9? I am. Edited June 16, 2017 by SoCalShooter69 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MemphisMechanic Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 @SoCalShooter69 I'm assuming all the ports in the V12 make it a seriously sketchy prospect to get enough gas and velocity out of the gun to make PF and give the comp/barrel holes enough to work with? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalShooter69 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 25 minutes ago, MemphisMechanic said: @SoCalShooter69 I'm assuming all the ports in the V12 make it a seriously sketchy prospect to get enough gas and velocity out of the gun to make PF and give the comp/barrel holes enough to work with? Yup. He can make PF... but he'll be flowing primers, bulging cases, and riding the odds of a Vegas bathroom slot machine in regards to pressure spike. He thinks because his buddy is an experienced open shooter, it's okay, (I mean that with all due respect, not trying to be a d**k). Unless his buddy has experience with a V12 or a Akai w/ a ton of popples, I'd recommend he stay in his lane and get in touch with someone that does have experience w a V12, etc. The only way to safely run a gold team in 9mm, is to get a 6" barrel from eaa, chop it, thread a comp. and run a handful of poples/comp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnbu Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 So, you don't just dip the 9mm case full of HS-6 and drop a 115 on top? Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalShooter69 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 17 minutes ago, johnbu said: So, you don't just dip the 9mm case full of HS-6 and drop a 115 on top? Lol. I prefer Norma, but you know, I like to live life on the edge! Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatriotDefense Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 32 minutes ago, SoCalShooter69 said: Yup. He can make PF... but he'll be flowing primers, bulging cases, and riding the odds of a Vegas bathroom slot machine in regards to pressure spike. He thinks because his buddy is an experienced open shooter, it's okay, (I mean that with all due respect, not trying to be a d**k). Unless his buddy has experience with a V12 or a Akai w/ a ton of popples, I'd recommend he stay in his lane and get in touch with someone that does have experience w a V12, etc. The only way to safely run a gold team in 9mm, is to get a 6" barrel from eaa, chop it, thread a comp. and run a handful of poples/comp. This man speaks the truth, the amount of gas the barrel and brake bleed from a 9mm is outragous. You really have to run super hot loads to make PF....... I have a 38SC V12 and it's about 8-9PF below what a comparable open gun with out the Popple holes shoot with the same load. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsoncustom Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Id be curious to hear some of the 9mm load data for the v12. Are you guys running really slow powders like aa7 or using coated lead bullets for more velocity? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdively Posted June 16, 2017 Author Share Posted June 16, 2017 I'll do a follow up with load data once i receive the gun amd develop loads. Going to work with CFE, Autocomp, AA5 and AA7 with RMR- JHP and some Blue bullets. In the meantime, if someone could help me find this pistol, it would be great. If you dont have anywhere you know/find/suggest, thanks anyways.Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darthdively Posted June 16, 2017 Author Share Posted June 16, 2017 ..also... i do appreciate everyone's input suggesting the 38SC. The brass is obviously the main reason why many would want to go 9mm M. "If you cant afford the gas dont buy the Ferrari!" Yada yada i know. But $150+ for 1k brass vs 5-7k for That being said, still on the hunt for the gun. Looks like i may have to wait until more comes in. But i would appreciate the assistance in finding it. Like i said before i'm not ignoring your concerns.ThanksSent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalShooter69 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 20 minutes ago, thompsoncustom said: Id be curious to hear some of the 9mm load data for the v12. Are you guys running really slow powders like aa7 or using coated lead bullets for more velocity? In 38sc AA#7 @ 10.2 w/ 124 Acme - just barley fills the case. Or, longshot @9.8 IIRC. 13 minutes ago, darthdively said: I'll do a follow up with load data once i receive the gun amd develop loads. Going to work with CFE, Autocomp, AA5 and AA7 with RMR- JHP and some Blue bullets. In the meantime, if someone could help me find this pistol, it would be great. If you dont have anywhere you know/find/suggest, thanks anyways. Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk Make sure you video record all this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalShooter69 Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 Just now, darthdively said: ..also... i do appreciate everyone's input suggesting the 38SC. The brass is obviously the main reason why many would want to go 9mm M. "If you cant afford the gas dont buy the Ferrari!" Yada yada i know. But $150+ for 1k brass vs 5-7k for That being said, still on the hunt for the gun. Looks like i may have to wait until more comes in. But i would appreciate the assistance in finding it. Like i said before i'm not ignoring your concerns. Thanks Sent from my SM-N920P using Tapatalk Dude, the problem isn't 9 major; it's the PLATFORM in which you're wanting to do it in. 9 major out of a GT V12 is retarded to attempt. Esp with those of us that are trying to warn you... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 2 hours ago, darthdively said: But $150+ for 1k brass vs 5-7k for Doesn't really cost more for .38 brass Buy 3,000 of them, load them up and shoot them all - repeat 4x. Now, you've used the brass five times ... Reload them for a 6th time, and the brass cost you 2.5 cents/each - actually cheaper than 9mm brass. Shoot them at a match and leave them on the ground. BUT, I still run 9mm in my TruBor .... It's just plain easier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thompsoncustom Posted June 16, 2017 Share Posted June 16, 2017 (edited) 5 hours ago, SoCalShooter69 said: In 38sc AA#7 @ 10.2 w/ 124 Acme - just barley fills the case. Or, longshot @9.8 IIRC. Make sure you video record all this. Hmmm I wonder if AA7 would work well with a 115gr bullet in the 9mm v12 than. I have no experience with a v12 but 10gr of aa7 behind a FMJ out of my CZ (No poples holes) makes 175pf so maybe with a coated bullet and a little more powder it could be done at a less than insane pressure? Edited June 16, 2017 by thompsoncustom Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SoCalShooter69 Posted June 17, 2017 Share Posted June 17, 2017 1 hour ago, thompsoncustom said: Hmmm I wonder if AA7 would work well with a 115gr bullet in the 9mm v12 than. I have no experience with a v12 but 10gr of aa7 behind a FMJ out of my CZ (No poples holes) makes 175pf so maybe with a coated bullet and a little more powder it could be done at a less than insane pressure? I would never try it. The v12 bleeds gas like no other gun on this planet. You can pretty much subtract 12-15 pf in 38sc, v12 vs non or minimal peoples. So you can imagine 9... Remember, the V12 is 12 popples and comp port (s). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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