Miranda Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 'tis ok. I am still willing to let you be wrong. I'd say that's mighty big of you, but you'd have to know right from wrong to do that, so the offer rings hollow. hohohohohohohohohohoho. I'll let you enjoy the hollow sound too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LeviSS Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 How many pages do you guys intend to argue? Can we let the pissing match die already? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted December 19, 2015 Share Posted December 19, 2015 I second that motion. :bow: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 levi and jack. I appreciate the moderation attempt. you may want to go back and look at who said what. I am tired of being insulted. If you think what I have said is something other than being kind and consider of others please state that and call in one of the moderation team. miranda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 I vote that we change the laws of Physics. Lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda Posted December 20, 2015 Share Posted December 20, 2015 it would be fun. which way do you want to change? the reality or the equations ? shifting reality would be magical. I can't see a fun side to shifting the equations.... unless that is how reality get changed... miranda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scowens Posted December 20, 2015 Author Share Posted December 20, 2015 Whew! Thanks for all the info....and entertainment . It is now my opinion that the 147gr is slightly better, with the caveat that if you think the bullet you shoot is better, and can back it up, then it IS BETTER. I'm going to get some 147's and find out of myself - cool another reason to go to the range . And Alaskapopo and Miranda; you are both wrong. You CANNOT CHANGE THE LAWS OF PHYSICS, NOR ANY FORMULAS. Reason: you have not asked my wife for permission. Bruhahahahaha Now for my testing, should I shoot 2 mags (each mag has either 115's or 147's); OR a couple of mags of alternating 115s and 147s. Of course I'll have to work up matching loads...... Merry Christmas all!!! Take care Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 Best way to test them is to set up COF and time yourself 10x with each load. Or, just fire a mag of each - bet you prefer the 147's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda Posted December 21, 2015 Share Posted December 21, 2015 ummmm? I'll get the worms back into the can, you have to put the lid on them. :-D miranda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grump Posted December 23, 2015 Share Posted December 23, 2015 I shoot both, both in minor Bianchi Cup loads. I like the 115's in my 6" Metallic 1911 (9mm) because it cycles especially soft with the added slide mass. In my comp'd Bianchi Open gun (38SC), I like the 147's because it is less "blasty" from the comp when I'm shooting barricades and it recoils insanely soft, almost like an airsoft gun. It also puts 6 shots into .68" at 50 yards. Mind sharing your 147 load? Starline .38SC brass, 3.5gr of Bullseye, 147 XTP seated 1.21 with a medium taper crimp and a Federal SPP. Takes a light spring to run it in a comp'd gun. Feels like a paintball gun to shoot. Getting about 930 fps and a PF of 136 or so??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 Hmmm, four pages and I haven't seen any mention of accuracy of 115 vs 124 vs 147.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miranda Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 ... there is less room to argue over that? I have not been able to see much difference betwixt the three. the hollow points seemed a bit more centered but 124 and 147 versions were similar. I think I'd run 147 HP for competitions from my pistol If I had to make major power factor. miranda Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
motosapiens Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 i haven't been able to detect any accuracy difference in slowfire. In rapid fire i shoot more accurately with the 147's because I like them better. what little i know of accuracy suggests that it's not just weight, but a combination of weight, diamter, oal, powder, crimp, voodoo and phase of the moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GOF Posted December 28, 2015 Share Posted December 28, 2015 I think you will find a 147 9mm bullet driven to about 880 fps (need 851 for a 125 PF) to be 'softer'... less recoil, slower recoil pulse. I like them. As for accuracy, I think that depends on the gun. But, if my guns will give me 2 inch 25 yard groups with a 124 grain bullet at 1050 fps (130) and I can get 2.5 inch with the softer 147 at 880 fps (129)... I'll take the 147. That lower recoil does make a difference over the course of a 200 round match.... and 2.5 vs 2-inch isn't worth discussing for IDPA, USPSA, or Steel Challenge.... the difference is really no difference. It would also be nice if we could lose the obnoxious trolls on this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RippinSVT Posted December 29, 2015 Share Posted December 29, 2015 I shoot both, both in minor Bianchi Cup loads. I like the 115's in my 6" Metallic 1911 (9mm) because it cycles especially soft with the added slide mass. In my comp'd Bianchi Open gun (38SC), I like the 147's because it is less "blasty" from the comp when I'm shooting barricades and it recoils insanely soft, almost like an airsoft gun. It also puts 6 shots into .68" at 50 yards. Mind sharing your 147 load? Starline .38SC brass, 3.5gr of Bullseye, 147 XTP seated 1.21 with a medium taper crimp and a Federal SPP. Takes a light spring to run it in a comp'd gun. Feels like a paintball gun to shoot. Getting about 930 fps and a PF of 136 or so??? I'm getting around 960-980 as I recall, depends if I use my practice load (coated 147's) or my match load (XTP). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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