jadm6468 Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 I am planning to have a race gun built, and my gun smith is recommending a caspian high capacity frame with a caspian slide(all metal). However, many people have guns made with the STI frames and slides. What is the difference and what do you recommend? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Caspians have a smaller grip, and might be better for smaller hands. The problem with Caspians is the lack of affordable "big stick" magazines. Once the magazine pipeline is working again, maybe. Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 ...many people have guns made with the STI frames and slides. . Like Alex mentioned...the reason you don't see as many Caspian Open gun is that nobody was making mags for them during the ban. There are supposed to be some Caspian mags coming out. If I saw/touched some real mags...then I would have no worries on building a Caspian. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 The Caspian grip is thinner - but I found it to be longer feeling in my hands than an STI (ie, front strap to back strap feels longer). In my hands, the STI feels better. The other difference is weight - obviously, the Caspian's going to be a little bit heavier. With available mags, pick whichever one feels best in your hands - I've seen high quality platforms built on both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Meek Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 jadm6468, Caspian is coming along with their mags for the 38 Super and they should be on the market in the very near future. In conversations with Gary they will also be producing a 170mm mag. I do not have a timeline for the 170mm, but Caspian wanted to get the std mags out the door and into the hands of the shooters. As far as grip feel I picked up a frame that hat the front strap checkered and it actually feels shorter fron to back than a non-chekered frame. If weight is an issue Caspian also has a Titanium frame. I have one of these as well and the complete open gun weighs in at about 38ozs. Compared to a Colt Govt 38 Super that weighs in at 39 ozs. So the options are definitely out there. Good Luck. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted March 7, 2005 Share Posted March 7, 2005 Similar subject, try clicking HERE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjanglin Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Caspian people are class acts. Gary has allways been willing to help out! Jim Anglin Sailors Custom Pistols Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Grube Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Don't forget the STI contingency money. Mags are readily available along witha ton of options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reneet Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 *STI is a major supporter of the sport @ all levels. NOt to mention contingency awards. *Magazine tube availability of varying lengths. Advantage STI. They have flush fit (carry length mags) I personally keep 2 of these for both limited and open guns for going prone. PLUS 140 mm tubes and 170 mm tubes. I think I get 24 rounds in my 38 Super STI 140mm tubes w/ Gram setup VS. 19 rounds in the Caspian mags. *Choice of aftermarket mag parts (base pads, followers) Advantage STI. *Weight. Advantage STI... They're lighter than Caspian resulting in quicker start & stop hence faster transitions. *Grip dimension. The only place where I might give a slight edge to the Caspian. Although with all of the fantastic grip mods (Jim Shanahan, Bob Londrigan, Tommy Roupe, etc.) and aftermarket products available for the STI it's pretty damn close. EricW Grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazos Custom Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Don't get me wrong I prefer the STI platform but Caspian is a major supporter of the sport also. Contingency awards are no way to decide what gun you want although they are a nice plus if you decide STI. Caspian magazines will be available shortly and then the aftermarket stuff will catch up. There will be little weight difference between the Caspian titanium frame and the STI. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Nice comments, Bob - contingency money is definitely not the way to decide which platform to choose (remember, for the chance at getting that money - and it assumes that you win your class - you have to provide STI or SV with free advertising Choose what feels best in your hand - whether it be S_I, Caspian, Para, Bul.... Some will require more work than others (or, at least, they did in the past). Build it and don't look back. Slightly OT - how does a titantium frame hold up compared to steel??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
reneet Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 Choose what feels best in your hand - whether it be S_I, Caspian, Para, Bul.... Some will require more work than others (or, at least, they did in the past). Build it and don't look back.Slightly OT - how does a titantium frame hold up compared to steel??? Good advice and very good question. I'd personally wait until the titanium has proved it can hold up to the punishment that we dish out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Meek Posted March 9, 2005 Share Posted March 9, 2005 According to a post on 1911forum.com Caspian has had the Ti frames in production since about 2000 and have had excellent results with the frames. On my Ti Hi-Cap i had it accu-railed due to the anticipated number of rounds I would shoot thorugh it. This way the Slide is riding on the steel rails. Just my thought. Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Grube Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 When it comes to supporting the matches STI seems to be at all the Area and bigger matches going. I forgot my hat at one and Don loaned me his to shoot a stage. He didn't know me from Adam but offered it up. Class acts all around. As far as the free Ads, Hell I have to wear somebody's shirt might as well take a chance on making some money while doing it. Both are good platforms but right now STI is way out in front and will be for a while. Caspian might catch up with mags and mods but while you're waiting for that you could already be set up with STI and shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Caspian is made from metal. Those other guns are freakin' plastic!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XRe Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 Caspian is made from metal. Those other guns are freakin' plastic!!! Ah, the irony.... :) That should be a big plus in the S_I category for you, then, FLex??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted March 10, 2005 Share Posted March 10, 2005 I had my tupperware frames hard-chromed...at the Glock's new Custom Shoppe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dirtypool40 Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Guys, ok, thread bump.... I need some help from the no BS CASPIAN users. How much actual interest is there in new mags and guns? I am trying to put together a run of Caspian mags and tubes. I know this has been asked before, but how many serious mag BUYERS are there out there. Please, grab every Caspian guy you know and have them email me. If there really is demand, I am pretty sure we can get it done. dirtypool40@yahoo.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rishii Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 dirtypool40 what caliber and length Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loves2Shoot Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 I would build Caspian guns if I could get good mags. I have one but hate the mag options. I have even resorted to trying to get some smuggled in like Travis has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hdgun Posted November 7, 2006 Share Posted November 7, 2006 Count me in for 40 mags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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