New SP01 on its way; upgrades for USPSA Production under $200

[burttrans]

I have been looking at SP01, Shadows, Shadow customs etc but ended up getting deal from LGS that I have done a lot of business on new SP01 cash price less than $600. I may end up trading another gun for it which would be zero out of pocket we have not made final deal yet but cash price is still an option.

I am new to USPSA and want to upgrade on a budget for now. What are must upgrades for $200 or less? I will be doing it myself changing parts and polishing where needed (there are many good threads and youtube videos out there).

What would you do first? Where to get part? I think I will use Cajun Gun Works any other suggestions would be appreciated?

I know FO sights would eat a big chuck of budget so I may increase budget some or wait a while on sights.

[zhunter]

Hammer

Disco

FPB Roller

Springs including Trigger Return Spring

Sights are a must too

KneelingAtlas is your friend

[emjei]

If you are changing hammer springs get the extended firing pin

[burttrans]

The more I think about it I think FO sights are a must do I really need to change hammer at this time if I am watching the budget?

[elguapo]

The more I think about it I think FO sights are a must do I really need to change hammer at this time if I am watching the budget?

No. Get the sights first, then worry about the trigger.

[pmt]

Sell it and buy an SP01 Shadow Custom 2014. Should only cost you another $800 or so.

[lcs]

Sell it and buy an SP01 Shadow Custom 2014. Should only cost you another $800 or so.

I agree. Why mess around trying to get all those parts when you can buy a great gun out-of-the-box. No worries, no headaches as eveything works. They come with a great trigger!

[elguapo]

I guess the "budget" part got missed

[cjfung10]

Sell it and buy an SP01 Shadow Custom 2014. Should only cost you another $800 or so.

I agree. Why mess around trying to get all those parts when you can buy a great gun out-of-the-box. No worries, no headaches as eveything works. They come with a great trigger!

I personally like working on my guns so I don't mind doing the work myself (being a mechanical engineer, it's fun and I consider it a hobby).

This is how I would do my upgrades:

1. Sights of your choice
2. SRS-2 kit from CGW (or parts that are included in the kit)
3. Potentially a lighter recoil spring (I use an 11#)
4. Grips of your choice

That will put you right at the $200 mark (or slightly over). You could polish up the factory sear, trigger bar, and hammer if you don't mind doing the work yourself (see kneelingatlas's thread or others out there)

Then with a bit more money you can get:

1. T2 disconnector from CGW to drop into your SP01 (T1 if you want to fit it yourself and squeeze every mil out of the tolerance stack and get the shortest reset out of your gun) and
2. Hammer from CGW or CZC (for production: CGW has a re-profiled shadow hammer that fits the SP01 and CZC has a CZ-UB hammer - not sure if they recut the hooks? don't have much experience with it).
3. Billet sear from CGW since it's easier to tune if the safety doesn't engage properly (optional)

Here are a few items that I would also do for reliability, or ease of installation:

1. Reduced trigger return spring and floating trigger pin from CGW
2. Solid firing pin retaining pin
3. Hammer/Disconnect pin

Spare parts:

1. Slide stop
2. Mag springs
3. Trigger Return Spring

I think when all said and done, $1000 will get you an awesome CZ that contends with the SP01 Shadow Custom with a decent % in savings. But that's just me and my 2 cents

[burttrans]

I guess the "budget" part got missed

Thanks for reminding them guys about budget! I got very good on SP01 for a great price $600 and should have a pretty nice gun for $800-$1000 range. I shot a Shadow Target and SP01 that a guy at the club put together and very little difference between the two. I just did not want to spend $1300-$1500 at this time and I get the joy of working on my gun!

[burttrans]

Sell it and buy an SP01 Shadow Custom 2014. Should only cost you another $800 or so.

I agree. Why mess around trying to get all those parts when you can buy a great gun out-of-the-box. No worries, no headaches as eveything works. They come with a great trigger!

I personally like working on my guns so I don't mind doing the work myself (being a mechanical engineer, it's fun and I consider it a hobby).

This is how I would do my upgrades:

1. Sights of your choice
2. SRS-2 kit from CGW (or parts that are included in the kit)
3. Potentially a lighter recoil spring (I use an 11#)
4. Grips of your choice

That will put you right at the $200 mark (or slightly over). You could polish up the factory sear, trigger bar, and hammer if you don't mind doing the work yourself (see kneelingatlas's thread or others out there)

Then with a bit more money you can get:

1. T2 disconnector from CGW to drop into your SP01 (T1 if you want to fit it yourself and squeeze every mil out of the tolerance stack and get the shortest reset out of your gun) and
2. Hammer from CGW or CZC (for production: CGW has a re-profiled shadow hammer that fits the SP01 and CZC has a CZ-UB hammer - not sure if they recut the hooks? don't have much experience with it).
3. Billet sear from CGW since it's easier to tune if the safety doesn't engage properly (optional)

Here are a few items that I would also do for reliability, or ease of installation:

1. Reduced trigger return spring and floating trigger pin from CGW
2. Solid firing pin retaining pin
3. Hammer/Disconnect pin

Spare parts:

1. Slide stop
2. Mag springs
3. Trigger Return Spring

I think when all said and done, $1000 will get you an awesome CZ that contends with the SP01 Shadow Custom with a decent % in savings. But that's just me and my 2 cents

Very well said cjfung! You did a great job of explaining my reasoning when looking at getting the SP01. I am looking at it as a great opportunity to learn about the CZ platform. There are many resources on this forum and others and also youtube.

Thanks for your opinion on upgrades that was very helpful!

Edited September 18, 2014 by burttrans

[jc3257]

Sell it and buy an SP01 Shadow Custom 2014. Should only cost you another $800 or so.

I agree. Why mess around trying to get all those parts when you can buy a great gun out-of-the-box. No worries, no headaches as eveything works. They come with a great trigger!

I personally like working on my guns so I don't mind doing the work myself (being a mechanical engineer, it's fun and I consider it a hobby).

This is how I would do my upgrades:

• Sights of your choice
• SRS-2 kit from CGW (or parts that are included in the kit)
• Potentially a lighter recoil spring (I use an 11#)
• Grips of your choice

That will put you right at the $200 mark (or slightly over). You could polish up the factory sear, trigger bar, and hammer if you don't mind doing the work yourself (see kneelingatlas's thread or others out there)

Then with a bit more money you can get:

• T2 disconnector from CGW to drop into your SP01 (T1 if you want to fit it yourself and squeeze every mil out of the tolerance stack and get the shortest reset out of your gun) and
• Hammer from CGW or CZC (for production: CGW has a re-profiled shadow hammer that fits the SP01 and CZC has a CZ-UB hammer - not sure if they recut the hooks? don't have much experience with it).
• Billet sear from CGW since it's easier to tune if the safety doesn't engage properly (optional)

Here are a few items that I would also do for reliability, or ease of installation:

• Reduced trigger return spring and floating trigger pin from CGW
• Solid firing pin retaining pin
• Hammer/Disconnect pin

Spare parts:

• Slide stop
• Mag springs
• Trigger Return Spring

I think when all said and done, $1000 will get you an awesome CZ that contends with the SP01 Shadow Custom with a decent % in savings. But that's just me and my 2 cents

+1 I did all this to my SP-01 and have an outstanding USPSA setup.

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[burttrans]

Thanks for all the great ideas; this forum has been great I have learned a lot. I won't get gun until Saturday Sept 27 my dealer buddy is located 100+ miles away and I am just waiting until large gun show he attends in my area to take delivery. That gives me time to keep reading about how to do my own upgrades to gun.

[jstagn]

What is the best CZ model to buy? Out of the box ready to go in Production USPSA, cost is not an option. Also where to buy it from.

[kneelingatlas]

I will be doing it myself changing parts and polishing where needed (there are many good threads and youtube videos out there).

Here's my tuning thread with lots of pictures:

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=191773&page=1

If you want the extended safeties and mag release of the Shadow post a WTT ad here, there are some guys who prefer the slim controls.

[kneelingatlas]

FPB Roller

Tell me about this roller

I've never heard of such a thing?!?

[burttrans]

I will be doing it myself changing parts and polishing where needed (there are many good threads and youtube videos out there).

Here's my tuning thread with lots of pictures:

http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=191773&page=1

If you want the extended safeties and mag release of the Shadow post a WTT ad here, there are some guys who prefer the slim controls.

Thanks kneelingatlas; you seem to be the resident expert! I have already spent much time reading your tuning thread very good stuff and I have learned a lot from it.

I do have to admit the little guy with the helmet you use kind of scares me!

[pmt]

What is the best CZ model to buy? Out of the box ready to go in Production USPSA, cost is not an option. Also where to buy it from.

Most will say the SP01 Accu-Shadow. I will say the SP01 Shadow Custom 2014. Although you said cost is not an option, the Custom 2014 is ~ $300 cheaper. For USPSA Production Division you won't notice the difference in not having the accu-bushing. I don't think I've ever shot a stage where we sat and shot our guns at 50yds off a rest.

Yes, the Accu-Shadow is more accurate, but you will not lose anything to it in a run 'n' gun match.

Where to buy it? - Occasionally local gun shops will have one in the shelf. The best way is to call Stuart at CZC and get on the 8 week wait list.

Edited September 18, 2014 by pmt

[zhunter]

FPB Roller

Tell me about this roller

I've never heard of such a thing?!?

CGW part #97058

Sorry, it is only for the P series guns, I put it in my P-09's

[zhunter]

What is the best CZ model to buy? Out of the box ready to go in Production USPSA, cost is not an option. Also where to buy it from.

Most will say the SP01 Accu-Shadow. I will say the SP01 Shadow Custom 2014. Although you said cost is not an option, the Custom 2014 is ~ $300 cheaper. For USPSA Production Division you won't notice the difference in not having the accu-bushing. I don't think I've ever shot a stage where we sat and shot our guns at 50yds off a rest.

Yes, the Accu-Shadow is more accurate, but you will not lose anything to it in a run 'n' gun match.

I agree, I bought both recently, the non ACCU is plenty accurate. But, the cool factor of the Bushing is very high

[JGus]

If you can afford an SP01, great. If you can afford an SP01 Shadow, even better. If you can afford an SP01 Shadow Accu, even better yet.

I dry fire with an SP01 I upgraded myself to a "Shadow" level. I shoot an Accu in Production matches. The Accu is awesome, but take a stock SP01 and do some upgrades and you will have all the gun you will need for competition.

A stock SP01 is a great gun to shoot in competition, right out of the box. Yeah, DA trigger is a little stiff. But polish some parts and swap for some lighter springs and it will improve a lot for little cost.

In my opinion the first thing to do is swap out the stock sights for the fiber optic front and competition fixed rear. Then, try lighter springs and polishing internals. And if the budget allows, which it should, add a Shadow hammer and maybe an extended firing pin. I also added the 85 Combat trigger but it's not really necessary in my opinion. I also added some Cajun Gun Works parts to sweeten the trigger, but that may put you out of your budget area. Swapping springs and polishing internals will do a lot for the trigger. But if you can afford it, go to CGW site and see what might fit into your budget to sweeten the trigger further.

[burttrans]

If you can afford an SP01, great. If you can afford an SP01 Shadow, even better. If you can afford an SP01 Shadow Accu, even better yet.

I dry fire with an SP01 I upgraded myself to a "Shadow" level. I shoot an Accu in Production matches. The Accu is awesome, but take a stock SP01 and do some upgrades and you will have all the gun you will need for competition.

A stock SP01 is a great gun to shoot in competition, right out of the box. Yeah, DA trigger is a little stiff. But polish some parts and swap for some lighter springs and it will improve a lot for little cost.

In my opinion the first thing to do is swap out the stock sights for the fiber optic front and competition fixed rear. Then, try lighter springs and polishing internals. And if the budget allows, which it should, add a Shadow hammer and maybe an extended firing pin. I also added the 85 Combat trigger but it's not really necessary in my opinion. I also added some Cajun Gun Works parts to sweeten the trigger, but that may put you out of your budget area. Swapping springs and polishing internals will do a lot for the trigger. But if you can afford it, go to CGW site and see what might fit into your budget to sweeten the trigger further.

I can definitely afford more but have bought a lot of guns recently so wanted to start with SP01 and do the work myself and learn more about CZ platform; I am new to CZ.

I don't see much on changing out sights is it easy to throw on some FO from CGW for a do it yourselfer?

Edited September 18, 2014 by burttrans

[cjfung10]

I can definitely afford more but have bought a lot of guns recently so wanted to start with SP01 and do the work myself and learn more about CZ platform; I am new to CZ.

I don't see much on changing out sights is it easy to throw on some FO from CGW for a do it yourselfer?

Pretty easy...CGW sights have the front sight notched out already so no need to drill it. You'll just have to drift out the rear sight from left to right (and install right to left) when looking from the rear of the gun.

[burttrans]

I can definitely afford more but have bought a lot of guns recently so wanted to start with SP01 and do the work myself and learn more about CZ platform; I am new to CZ.

I don't see much on changing out sights is it easy to throw on some FO from CGW for a do it yourselfer?

Pretty easy...CGW sights have the front sight notched out already so no need to drill it. You'll just have to drift out the rear sight from left to right (and install right to left) when looking from the rear of the gun.

Thanks I have changed Glock sights and they are really easy wasn't sure about the CZ and I don't have gun yet to look at so I wasn't sure.

Edited September 18, 2014 by burttrans

[TheBoss]

You can do a lot of the work yourself if you take your time, the get the STRS CZC will need it to do that work.