copecowboy22 Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 So I signed up for a steel competition and now I need help finding a light load and spring combo. I'm using a stock Springfield operator and 200 gr lswc. After a little bit of looking on this forum I think I'm going to start with 4.0 gr of titegroup (only pistol powder I have at the moment) and go from there. I'm just now sure where to start on springs. Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 Just start with 4.0 and see if that works. Also, try same load with 185 grain bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted August 19, 2014 Share Posted August 19, 2014 If you happen across any TrailBoss powder buy it. It makes for a great minor load with .45 ACP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe D Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 I shoot one of our Kimbers in ESP on occasion. 3.0 of Clays and 3.4 of Promo go an average of 650-660 fps with a 200 gr SWC.OAL is 1.250". I use 9 round mags in ESP. Love those big round holes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted August 22, 2014 Share Posted August 22, 2014 Does this steel match have any requirements/guidelines on minimum bullet velocity? The slower the bullet, the more elastic the collision. I wouldn't want to be around steel being hit at 650fps. For paper, I wouldn't be concerned...but for hard targets, I'd want the bullets running faster...like 750fps or more. 185gr @800fps is plenty soft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copecowboy22 Posted August 22, 2014 Author Share Posted August 22, 2014 No guide lines. It's the Texas Steel Shootout. No power factor no chrono but no calibrations either. Just have to make it fall. Loaded up some at 4.0 gr and felt pretty good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jcc7x7 Posted September 10, 2014 Share Posted September 10, 2014 Call/email Wolfe Springs and get one of their reduced recoil spring packs so you can calibrate the load to how you want your gun to cycle. Also you can tune it to recover better for each load and how you hold the gun etc. Not as important on steel because you transition each target but still useful Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copecowboy22 Posted September 10, 2014 Author Share Posted September 10, 2014 I got an assortment of springs from Wilson. Settled on 3.8gr and a 12# spring. Made an average of 134 PF Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
grouptherapy Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Why not go major 45? It's easy to make and manage plus it has a soft recoil if load development is proper. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copecowboy22 Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 I shoot major 45 in single stack. This is for a steel match where PF doesn't matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Why not go major 45? It's easy to make and manage plus it has a soft recoil if load development is proper. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk You can make .45 major with less recoil than factory ammo, but you can make .45 minor that feels closer to soft 9mm than .45. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
copecowboy22 Posted September 12, 2014 Author Share Posted September 12, 2014 I don't own a 9mm to compare it to but the minor loads are nice and soft out of a govt 1911. Feels more like a .22 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougCarden Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Berrys 185 HBRN. 4.6 VV 310. OAL around 1.220 or so. Crimp .462 Around 145-150 PF and will function with stock springs, but a 10lb spring is best. Shoots well at 25yds as well..... DougC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted September 12, 2014 Share Posted September 12, 2014 Berrys 185 HBRN. 4.6 VV 310. OAL around 1.220 or so. Crimp .462 Around 145-150 PF and will function with stock springs, but a 10lb spring is best. Shoots well at 25yds as well..... DougC .462" crimp? Really. That's definitely going to leave a mark in a plated bullet. Did you perhaps mean 0.472"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougCarden Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 Nope...I was surprised as well... DougC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 What would possess you to crimp that heavily? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DougCarden Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 1.5 inch group at 25 yds....the more I crimped the tighter the group got..... DougC Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
njl Posted September 13, 2014 Share Posted September 13, 2014 I wonder if it's just raising the pressure and if more powder would do the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete586 Posted September 15, 2014 Share Posted September 15, 2014 (edited) The other day tried 3.2g Trailboss 233 rn at 1.27 oal 132 PF about 2" group of hand @ 25yards out of S&W 625pc Edited September 15, 2014 by Pete586 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zzt Posted October 7, 2014 Share Posted October 7, 2014 3.8gr VV N310 behind a 200 LSWC is a soft shooting and accurate minor load. I use it for Bullseye. That being said, several of the poppers and plates at our club activate other targets and have to be hit hard to go down quickly. A hit with a 144PF 9mm does not always do the trick and you are better off double tapping. A solid hit from a 170PF 45ACP does the trick immediately, and double taps are not much slower at all. If you want to stay minor, I'd recommend PFs higher than 155 for just that reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dave33 Posted October 28, 2014 Share Posted October 28, 2014 4.9 gr Titegroup under a cast lead 155gr SWC averages 869 FPS~134 PF out of my HK USP Expert and easily shoots 2" groups at 25 yds. You can't imagine how soft this is. Even functions the gun, however the HK comes with a variable weight recoil spring and I'm sure that's why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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