whitetail1 Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 My 13 year old son is going thru a stage right now that has me perplexed. He is yanking the trigger during slow fire and shooting low left. He seems to have it under control when shooting quickly or at least the bad hits are not as severe. We shoot IDPA together. He will go weeks without an issue and then all of a sudden just goes to crap. I have a suspicious feeling that he is not being true to himself during dry fire practice and gets sloppy. I'm not certain. Any thoughts would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Is he shooting a 2 lb crisp trigger, or an 8 lb long trigger? Have you tried the Dot Torture Drill? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetail1 Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 Is he shooting a 2 lb crisp trigger, or an 8 lb long trigger? Have you tried the Dot Torture Drill? 3.5 TRIGGER. Not certain what the Dot Drill is??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetail1 Posted August 15, 2014 Author Share Posted August 15, 2014 He shoots a Gen 4 Glock 34. 3.5 Wolf trigger connector. #13 recoil spring. 160 grain bullets. very low recoli. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 Frank Garcia's Dot tourcher Handgun drill. Just google it. 2in circles with 9 diff drills. Really good drill. Stay in the time and inside the 2in circles then move him back 3yds, or forward?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jshuberg Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 (edited) He's most likely waiting for the "perfect" sight picture to occur within his arc of movement, and then snatching the trigger too quickly when he sees it. When shooting faster, he's not waiting for a perfect sight picture, and so he presses the trigger more correctly and doesn't throw the shot. What you should ask him to do is to line up his shot, and rather than waiting for the perfect sight picture, to intentionally shoot when his front sight isn't exactly on target, or when it isn't exactly centered in the rear. Doing this will teach him what the difference between an adequate sight picture and a "perfect" sight picture is. Under most circumstances the difference in shot placement between an adequate sight picture and a perfect sight picture isn't worth bothering over. Basically, let him learn visually what an adequate sight picture looks like. Once this clicks with him, the urge to snatch the trigger when he everything looks perfect will fall off. Basically he needs to learn to ignore his arc of movement and to comfortably take the shot when his sights are wobbling around in the "good enough" zone. Hope this helps! Edited August 15, 2014 by Jshuberg Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bountyhunter Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 He's most likely waiting for the "perfect" sight picture to occur within his arc of movement, and then snatching the trigger too quickly when he sees it. I'll bet every shooter on earth has done that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
a matt Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 I sure have. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mgardner Posted August 15, 2014 Share Posted August 15, 2014 When I can get the little guy in my head that is rapidly running in circles with his hands in the air and screaming "shoot, shoot you idiot, the sights are on target" to just shut up I do best. LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetail1 Posted August 18, 2014 Author Share Posted August 18, 2014 Well I did a little test with him with random dummy rounds and slow fire. He flinches like mad on slow fire but does well on quick shots. When i ask him to take a 2-3 second sight picture while squeezing the trigger he fails. He quickly takes up the slack in the trigger each time but struggles to squeeze the last bit out in slow fire. Any more drills or advice??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyGlock Posted August 20, 2014 Share Posted August 20, 2014 Suggest to him NOT TO STOP his trigger press in that last bit of resistance. Continue the pressure and press thru that resistance. In other words, ignore that resistance entirely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iamdann Posted August 26, 2014 Share Posted August 26, 2014 Ear plugs and muffs too helps everything quiet down so you can pay attention to the sights. Also if you have access to a 22 pistol with a red dot you can switch over to it after shooting your regular pistol during live fire practice and it will show him what he is doing to his sight picture when pulling the trigger. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted August 27, 2014 Share Posted August 27, 2014 Hello: Get him to do some group shooting at 10-25 yards. Go slow and fast so he gets used to the sight picture at different speeds. I use those 4" circle sticky targets on the IDPA target. I do groups of 10 at a time no more than 50 rounds. I start with groups and end with groups when I practice. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kamikaze1a Posted September 25, 2014 Share Posted September 25, 2014 How about having him slowly squeeze off some shots into the berm without "aiming" at a particular spot? No aiming...no snatching... Then he just has to transition that same trigger press while engaging a target. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitetail1 Posted October 1, 2014 Author Share Posted October 1, 2014 lots of great ideas guys. Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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