Shotz Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 Looking at putting a red dot on my Glock for SC. What are the advantages and disadvantages of.... C-More - Frame Mounted vs. DeltaPoint/FF3/RMR/Etc. mounted to the dovetail. Initially I like the idea of a dovetail mount because I would not need a new holster, but I think I would track a frame mount quicker shot-to-shot. Let me know your thoughts! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I would think the slide mounted is going to take a beating - the slide coming back for each shot is going to put a LOT of pressure on the sight/mount. The frame mounted stays still during recoil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotz Posted July 9, 2014 Author Share Posted July 9, 2014 I'm wanting to know the competitive advantages of each set up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimreed1948 Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 As Jack mentioned, the more banging the slide mounted dot takes, the more of a chance the dot point of aim could change. With the frame mounted C-More you can easily change the dot size by plugging in another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xhris Posted July 9, 2014 Share Posted July 9, 2014 I'm wanting to know the competitive advantages of each set up. When I shoot the frame mounted dot I never lose the dot, its very easy to track. When I shoot the slide mounted dot I lose it every shot, I anticipate where its going to appear again, but there is a short period where I lose it. Just put your gun up as is at a target, look at the target, see how easy it is to track your front sight. if you are losing it while its in motion, thats the same effect you are going to have with the slide mounted dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotz Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 Thanks Xhris. That is kind of what I was thinking. I like the idea of it mounted in the dovetail but I didn't know if it would make tracking it from shot to shot harder than mounted on the frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parallax3D Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 As Jack mentioned, the more banging the slide mounted dot takes, the more of a chance the dot point of aim could change. With the frame mounted C-More you can easily change the dot size by plugging in another one. You DO realize that the C-More Slide Ride, (that we all use for frame-mounted setups), was originally designed to be mounted to the slide of a Glock, right? That's WHY it's called the "Slide Ride." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcs Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 As Jack mentioned, the more banging the slide mounted dot takes, the more of a chance the dot point of aim could change. With the frame mounted C-More you can easily change the dot size by plugging in another one. You DO realize that the C-More Slide Ride, (that we all use for frame-mounted setups), was originally designed to be mounted to the slide of a Glock, right? That's WHY it's called the "Slide Ride." Hard to imagine a standard C-more mounted on a Glock slide. Interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peterthefish Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 I use an RMR. As other have mentioned you lose the dot during recoil as the sight is moving. Another consideration is the smaller glass size of an RMR / Deltapoint vs a C More - can make requiring the dot that much harder. Plan to move to a CMore after this summer and put the RMR back on the ACOG where it belongs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotz Posted July 10, 2014 Author Share Posted July 10, 2014 Anybody have a recommendation for a frame mount for a Glock that does not require the ejection port to be lowered? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 None that work well. The carver Hunter dosent it raises the sight higher or sure. I would have the port lowered as it's not a big deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Parallax3D Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Hard to imagine a standard C-more mounted on a Glock slide. Interesting. Ask, and you shall receive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcs Posted July 10, 2014 Share Posted July 10, 2014 Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ickus Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 SJS side mount ...Do it know or you'll do it later ... best way ta go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igolfat8 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 Anybody have a recommendation for a frame mount for a Glock that does not require the ejection port to be lowered? I have a carver mount on a G22 and G35 and did not require any mods to the ejection port on either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotz Posted July 12, 2014 Author Share Posted July 12, 2014 I'm leaning towards a Carver. The SJC looks like too much work to install and then modify the ejection port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rick88 Posted July 12, 2014 Share Posted July 12, 2014 (edited) Hard to imagine a standard C-more mounted on a Glock slide. Interesting. Ask, and you shall receive. Its easy to understand why this never took off.. Edited July 12, 2014 by Rick88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotz Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 That just does not look right!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reshoot Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 I'm wanting to know the competitive advantages of each set up. When I shoot the frame mounted dot I never lose the dot, its very easy to track. When I shoot the slide mounted dot I lose it every shot, I anticipate where its going to appear again, but there is a short period where I lose it. Just put your gun up as is at a target, look at the target, see how easy it is to track your front sight. if you are losing it while its in motion, thats the same effect you are going to have with the slide mounted dot. My experience, exactly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotz Posted July 14, 2014 Author Share Posted July 14, 2014 So what frame mounts are you guys using? Let's hear some recommendations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igolfat8 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I ran a Burris FFIII on a G22 for well over 15K rounds and never had any issues with recoil abuse on the slide or mount. You just Locktite the mount in the dovetail and it will be there until you remove it. I never lost zero either. I have since moved on to Carver frame mounts for my FFIIIs but I don't notice any advantage of speed verses dot reacquisition on either style of mounts. The Carver mounts don't effect brass ejection. The only negative about frame mounts is you are extremely limited to holsters. I run a Carver modified CR Speed holster on my G35 and it works fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sniper3 Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I have both mounted on identicle small frame 9mm witnesses . Maybe its me but the frame mount seems more accurate and easier to shoot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shotz Posted July 20, 2014 Author Share Posted July 20, 2014 I might go with the Carver and a C-More. There does not seem to be many choices out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 the things to consider with frame vs dovetail is this: dovetail mount add weight to your slide. ideally you want to be lowering the slide weight not adding to it. this has a negative impact on muzzle lift. obviously on the slide it takes more of a beating, but plenty of RDS are engineered to handle it and will last a long time. frame mount obviously can be a hassle with holsters. it also adds more weight overall to the gun, but none of it is on the moving components. with a frame mount (except for a sideways mount) the dot will not be as close to the bore as it would be in a dovetail. I think on balance most decide frame mount is the better way to go for a competition gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Horizontal Cmore on the frame, big lens, dot closest to the slide and always where you want it to be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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