C-Money Posted July 11, 2014 Share Posted July 11, 2014 I have no problems igniting CCI or Winchester large primers with a cut 14 and the Xtreme firing pin. I haven't tried any .45 small primer cares yet. DA or SA? Wait, I see it's Large Primer... those are easier to set off than Small aren't they? Oddly enough Tula and S&B were 100% today. CCI were only 80%. So far I only trust Federals when it counts. Going to try the FP block test w/sharpie and make 100 each instead of 20 of S&B and Tula to try again. Half swaged/wet tumbled and half normal corncob tumbled. Swaging and wet tumbling the cases did seem to increase reliability, and certainly improved primer seating on my 650. Honestly though, it would be easier to just get a job at McDonalds to afford Federals than do that to all the 9mm I load. I also tried 6lb. 7lb, and 8lb recoil springs out. Don't really like the 6 or 7. 9 still seems best to me. 8 is no real difference I can feel. All were reliable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onagoth Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 would 14lb hammer springs with xtreme firing pins pretty much set off any primer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gennaro Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 I would think that combination should be able to handle most anything, However , to be sure , I would get the hardest primers you might end up having to use, in case you run out of your normal load combination, make sure they are seated properly , ( not too high ) and test several hundred rounds to be sure you won't have any issues. This way you'll be able to sleep at night. The best of luck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealio Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 How hard so you push when you seat your printers Twinkie? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
C-Money Posted July 13, 2014 Share Posted July 13, 2014 How hard so you push when you seat your printers Twinkie? Oh, hard as the press can go. Rocked the press and bench back at times. No problem seating them, IMO. Maybe too much crud in the pockets but no lack of force seating them. I recently got the Dillon alignment tool and fixed my press which was getting out of alignment. That was getting to be a problem in ruining a lot of primers. No problems any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
babo_al Posted July 14, 2014 Share Posted July 14, 2014 (edited) Had a chance to shoot on a match that Eric G participated here in Canada this weekend and got some new factory hammer springs and firing pin springs from him. The new hammer spring seam to be very similar to wolf 13 lb in length but the wire was thinner compare to wolf about 0.028 diameter according to my caliber .The firing pin spring was a shorter version of the original factory one. Later today I noticed that they were also available on his online shop. Installed a set on my stock 2 and seam to be very similar to what I was getting using wolf springs, I guess the benefit with it is the legality of parts used in production division. Edited July 14, 2014 by babo_al Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted July 15, 2014 Author Share Posted July 15, 2014 14# spring with a coil cut off seems to have fixed it...although I've only shot about 100 rounds that way but without any light strikes. The Henning pin gets stuck inside the gun when dry firing even with a new Wolf extra power spring. Not sure what that's about but I guess I'll have to return it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zsavage81 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 If you want a kit for this I can hook that up, I have the new Xtreme firing pin springs, hammer springs, and firing pins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nealio Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 14# spring with a coil cut off seems to have fixed it...although I've only shot about 100 rounds that way but without any light strikes. The Henning pin gets stuck inside the gun when dry firing even with a new Wolf extra power spring. Not sure what that's about but I guess I'll have to return it. How far is the pin protruding past the breech face when its stuck? 1/16" or longer? You might just have a burr inside the firing pin channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted July 22, 2014 Author Share Posted July 22, 2014 Much more than that. About a quarter inch. When it's stuck forward the firing pin block is also stuck up. Then when I rack the slide the fp stop falls out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwc Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I just installed one in my stock 3 and am having the same problem you just described. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleks10 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I´ve installed new Xtreme light hammer ( 13,5 lbs ) and firing pin springs with Xtreme firing pin on my S2, I´m going to the range today, I´ll let you know how it went... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hal1955 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 The firing pin spring is too short, allowing too much firing pin travel. Try adding a few coils of the old spring behind the new spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
waktasz Posted July 23, 2014 Author Share Posted July 23, 2014 You mean stack a piece of the old spring in there? My Extreme pin works fine with a cut firing pin spring. This pin needs extra spring to keep it from getting weird? Silly italian guns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zsavage81 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 You mean stack a piece of the old spring in there? My Extreme pin works fine with a cut firing pin spring. This pin needs extra spring to keep it from getting weird? Silly italian guns! If you lay a pile of factory firing pin springs down side by side you'll notice that there is a great degree of variation between spring length. Because of this you can't just say "take factory spring and cut X number of coils and it's goot to go". Furthermore, when you clip a new spring down to the edge and then that spring sets/settles, it's often then too short. I've seen as much as 1/4" difference in a batch of springs between the longest and shortest spring in the batch. I'm trying to get the xtreme springs in a gun and test them this week. I will say that in the 50 sets of medium and 50 sets of light xtreme springs I got, they are all with in a 1/16" or less in length variation at the max. 95% are 1/32" or less. Seems the Xtreme springs are much more uniformally made. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hal1955 Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 You mean stack a piece of the old spring in there? My Extreme pin works fine with a cut firing pin spring. This pin needs extra spring to keep it from getting weird? Silly italian guns! If the pin travels too far forward it will get stuck in the hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleks10 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 I´ve installed new Xtreme light hammer ( 13,5 lbs ) and firing pin springs with Xtreme firing pin on my S2, I´m going to the range today, I´ll let you know how it went... so this setup is not working with Fiocchi primers, ignition is 50-60%, medium springs are working ok but there is a big difference in trigger pull Eric told me he tryed CCI, Federal and Winchester primer with light springs and it was ok... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kahai808 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 i run a 13lbs hammer spring, EG firing pin and i but a coil off the firing pin spring. i have lit off CCI, WIN, and Fed. i did notice once i got a lot of dry fire and rounds down it would start to light strike the CCI's. so i just use federals now just to make sure it goes bang everytime. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc88 Posted July 24, 2014 Share Posted July 24, 2014 (edited) I use a Henning extended firing pin with a full length FP spring. EG Extreme hammer with a long sear. 14# hammer spring. This set up in in both my Stock 2's 9mm. Everything is polished. Winchester primers in practice may get 1 light strike out of 500. Only Federal primers in matches though to be safe. I tried all the combos out there and this set up has been the most reliable. Edited July 24, 2014 by doc88 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aleks10 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I´ve installed new Xtreme light hammer ( 13,5 lbs ) and firing pin springs with Xtreme firing pin on my S2, I´m going to the range today, I´ll let you know how it went... so this setup is not working with Fiocchi primers, ignition is 50-60%, medium springs are working ok but there is a big difference in trigger pull Eric told me he tryed CCI, Federal and Winchester primer with light springs and it was ok... so I´ve tryed with CCI and Murom primers, much bettter but still one or two light strikes out of 100, unexcebtable , I went to medium setup and it works 100%... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
doc88 Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I still think like some others have said on here that if you want to keep a light trigger setup use Winchester, CCI, etc primers for practice and accept a few light strikes but go to Federal primers for matches. Do have a practice session with Federals to make sure you're 100% igniting. I know this is sort of a pain to have to load different primers. It's the only thing that has worked for me so that I can keep a 6# DA and a 3# SA pull on my S2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlp40cal Posted July 30, 2014 Share Posted July 30, 2014 i had same problem purchased henning firing pin cut 3/4 of spring no more problems Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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