azselectfire Posted March 5, 2014 Share Posted March 5, 2014 I just got an accu shadow and was wondering if there is a list that shows the order of all the different grips from smallest to largest. I replaced the aluminum grips that came on it with grips from a cz tactical which are larger but I have big hands and want to go even bigger if available. Are the wood grips or even the thick aluminum grips thicker? Would be nice if we had a list that showed them all ordered by size. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I have some thicker rubber grips you could try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CZinSC Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Would be nice if we had a list that showed them all ordered by size. You mean like this: http://czcustom.com/CZ-75-85-TS-Grips-Aluminum-Plastic-Rubber.aspx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 as far as I know the factory rubber grips are the biggest. the DAA alluminium grips in the thick option seem to be the thickest of the alloy grips. the 'thin' cz ub grips and similar are super thin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
azselectfire Posted March 6, 2014 Author Share Posted March 6, 2014 Would be nice if we had a list that showed them all ordered by size. You mean like this: http://czcustom.com/CZ-75-85-TS-Grips-Aluminum-Plastic-Rubber.aspx Ok thanks for the responses I've been on czcustoms site looking at all the different grips and somehow i missed that list lol I have some thicker rubber grips you could try. Interested... If the rubber ones are the thickest from cz I need aftermarket. Want to stay production legal tho so no finger molds or anything Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czhase Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I was thinking about the legality of the Hogue wrap around grips the other day. The CZ 75 Champion came from the factory with them, is that a loophole to call them a factory part/grip? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I was thinking about the legality of the Hogue wrap around grips the other day. The CZ 75 Champion came from the factory with them, is that a loophole to call them a factory part/grip? Is the Champion on the Production list??? Don't get me wrong, I think it's absurd that a $500 pistol with a $20 pair of the most popular aftermarket grips is illegal, but a $2,000 AccuShadow is legal, but the Champion argument doesn't hold water Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alma Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 We had a thread on this a week or two ago. The thick DAA grips should be a bit thicker than the thick CZC aluminum grips. CZC's website has a chart of grip widths on its website. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Would be nice if we had a list that showed them all ordered by size. You mean like this: http://czcustom.com/CZ-75-85-TS-Grips-Aluminum-Plastic-Rubber.aspx Ok thanks for the responses I've been on czcustoms site looking at all the different grips and somehow i missed that list lol I have some thicker rubber grips you could try. Interested... If the rubber ones are the thickest from cz I need aftermarket. Want to stay production legal tho so no finger molds or anything I don't think there is anything thicker in the aftermarket than the factory CZ rubber or plastic grips. they are the thickest I've been able to find either factory or aftermarket. you could make up a little spacer (almost like a thick gasket) to put between the grip panels and the frame to space them out a bit to get some more width if you need it. you must have pretty big hands! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czhase Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I forgot who it was but someone on the forum mentioned that they took the factory plastic grip and built them up with JB weld and abrasive media to make them wider. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kneelingatlas Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I would do is take the plastic grips, rough them up the layer fiberglass cloth and resin until they were thick enough, then you could contour them however you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpa5oh Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I was thinking about the legality of the Hogue wrap around grips the other day. The CZ 75 Champion came from the factory with them, is that a loophole to call them a factory part/grip? Is the Champion on the Production list??? Don't get me wrong, I think it's absurd that a $500 pistol with a $20 pair of the most popular aftermarket grips is illegal, but a $2,000 AccuShadow is legal, but the Champion argument doesn't hold water Did this change with the new rulebook? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czhase Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I was thinking about the legality of the Hogue wrap around grips the other day. The CZ 75 Champion came from the factory with them, is that a loophole to call them a factory part/grip?Is the Champion on the Production list???Don't get me wrong, I think it's absurd that a $500 pistol with a $20 pair of the most popular aftermarket grips is illegal, but a $2,000 AccuShadow is legal, but the Champion argument doesn't hold water Did this change with the new rulebook? No, just looking for loopholes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tortuga Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I might be wrong but I think it did with teh new rulebook. Can't find a copy of the old one to compare, but as I recall it had a diagram showing the area covered by the stock grip as being all you can modify. The new book shows the front & back strap as being able to use gripe tape,etc.. Personally I think the Hogue is a great grip but when I had my SP-01 Shadow it was not production legal. If it had been I'd still have that pistol. Bulking up the side panels never gave me the same benefit as building up the front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cjfung10 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I'm on the other side of the coin and need to have thinner grips to reach the mag release. I've got a couple extra rubber pairs and a plastic pair off a TS. Wanna trade for your thinner ones? I'll add cash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 I might be wrong but I think it did with teh new rulebook. Can't find a copy of the old one to compare, but as I recall it had a diagram showing the area covered by the stock grip as being all you can modify. The new book shows the front & back strap as being able to use gripe tape,etc.. Personally I think the Hogue is a great grip but when I had my SP-01 Shadow it was not production legal. If it had been I'd still have that pistol. Bulking up the side panels never gave me the same benefit as building up the front. I'm not sure if USPSA is the same, but in IPSC yes it has a diagram showing you can add grip tape to front and back straps but it also states you cannot have 'wrap around' grip panels and also mentions that grips must follow the 'profile' of the factory grips. now personally given the factory grips on a shadow are rubber with palm swells I would argue all the alloy grips don't follow that profile either (they are flat), but for certain grips with finger holds don't follow the stock profile which has a flat front strap. personally I agree. they should just allow any aftermarket grip panels. the hogue grips are cheap and nice to use. like someone said you can use a $2000 custom shop build shadow with a comp bushing but can't use a set of $30 grips on your $800 CZ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stickboy44 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Ya there is a gray area on the way they word the rule on the grips I don't see a problem using the houge grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahK Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Can anyone help me verify if the "thin" DAA grips are the same thickness as the "thin" CZ grips? TIA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czhase Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Can anyone help me verify if the "thin" DAA grips are the same thickness as the "thin" CZ grips? TIA The thin DAA are 1.157" wide The CZC thin are 1.130" wide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJ99 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Where do the VZs fit in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JonahK Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Can anyone help me verify if the "thin" DAA grips are the same thickness as the "thin" CZ grips? TIA The thin DAA are 1.157" wide The CZC thin are 1.130" wide Wow, sub-10 minute response. Thank you VERY much! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czhase Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Very welcome VZ's are 1.208" wide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JeffJ99 Posted March 6, 2014 Share Posted March 6, 2014 Thanks - I'm liking the VZ diamondbacks but wonder if the thins would be better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xhris Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I put a pair of the Double Alpha grips on today - night and day difference from the "Thick" aluminum grips.... I am very happy now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpa5oh Posted March 9, 2014 Share Posted March 9, 2014 I emailed Amidon about the Hogue grips...here's the response I got: Dan, There has been no change to the rules regarding this, appendix D4 item 21.4 has always allowed grip sleeves and appendix E4 shows where the grit sand stippling can be applied, it also states that grip sleeves cannot disconnect the grip safety. As far as the Hogue finger grips, I wrote an article in Front Sight several editions ago that these are allowed on the CZ 75 models as they were the original grips when CZ produced the model 75. John Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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