Smitty79 Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I've only shot one 3 gun match with a .223/5.56 rifle. I plan on doing more this year. Since ammo is more consistently available, I want to settle in on one type of ammo that my rifle likes. I have: Federal AE .223, PPU 5.56, PMC Bronze .223 and Wolf Gold .223. I don't expect to compete beyond 330yds. My scope's (TAC 30) reticule assumes a 100 yd zero, so that's what I am planning to use. What range should I test accuracy at? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hi-Power Jack Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I would check accuracy at 100 yards - standard, MOA, etc. But, I'd also check some at 300 yards if you have the facilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I'd try 1,2 and 300 if you have the 300 yd distance available. It's nice to know what it does at each range. You might find that you could cover them all better with a different zero than 100 yards. You might consider a 200yd zero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ridenrunwv Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I personally test loads at 100 due to consistency. The further you are shooting the more changes in wind or slight shooter errors will effect your groups. You could potentially have your best load open up to appear to be a bad group because of different factors at 300 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gondo Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I personally test loads at 100 due to consistency. The further you are shooting the more changes in wind or slight shooter errors will effect your groups. You could potentially have your best load open up to appear to be a bad group because of different factors at 300 yards. x2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lead-Head Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 (edited) The first thing u need to do is settle on a load. Other than the wolf gold, I have shot a lot of the other factory stuff you mention and had no issues.The neat thing about these BDC scopes is that they are pretty close to correct for most factory loads. At least "minute of flasher" my tac 30, when zeroed with either the AE or PMC at 100 hits flashers with appropriate holds out to 400.What I found to be important was zeroing at 100. With a 2.5 center Moa dot, that can be tricky. I used 3" square shoot and see targets and bracketed the dot in the middle to maintain consisted poa. Edited February 25, 2014 by Lead-Head Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troupe Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 The biggest mistake that I see in matches is that the rifle shooters don't know what there rifles do at distances. It is good to me, since it helps shooters that do know will place higher in the standings. You need to shoot at all distances, as well as angles. Try your rifle at a 90 degree angle at 100 yards. If you ever run into it in a match, I am telling you that you will beat good rifle shooters that has never done it before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JackinSD Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Troupe you have me laughing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smitty79 Posted February 27, 2014 Author Share Posted February 27, 2014 The biggest mistake that I see in matches is that the rifle shooters don't know what there rifles do at distances. It is good to me, since it helps shooters that do know will place higher in the standings. You need to shoot at all distances, as well as angles. Try your rifle at a 90 degree angle at 100 yards. If you ever run into it in a match, I am telling you that you will beat good rifle shooters that has never done it before. What do you mean by "90 degree angle at 100 yards"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rcollier Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Roll you and your rifle over 90 degrees right or left and know where you hit. Example: under a low barricade or a narrow horizontal port. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I was attempting to visualize exactly what standing at a 90 degree angle to the target would do for you ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flatland Shooter Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 Roll you and your rifle over 90 degrees right or left and know where you hit. Example: under a low barricade or a narrow horizontal port. BoomerShooter had a nice thread that touched on that topic. http://www.boomershooter.com/forums/index.php/topic/10041-what-distance-to-zero-angled-iron-sights/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stlhead Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 I think he actually means shooting straight up or down. It is a little tough to tell. I bet english is not his first language. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted February 27, 2014 Share Posted February 27, 2014 If you don't have a chronograph, find someone with one and run some ammo through that. If you are not getting a consistent velocity then that will definitely show up in your precision and the further the distance, the worse it will get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtychemist Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 You have to think outside left and right targets to understand it. If you have to shoot while you lay on your left arm your 90 degrees from your vertical shooting position. Different axis of rotation (z) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted March 3, 2014 Share Posted March 3, 2014 Good, now we've gone from looking at the side, top and bottom of the target to laying on our left side while looking at it !! Whats next ??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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