Redstag Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Installed there new style comp on my shorty open gun, for me it tracks better for the second shot than the shoto style. The comp does not come with top ports, its up to the shooter to determine if more gas needs to be bled off. I think typically in 38 SC you mill a slot and in 9 major if needed a couple holes, I added two 3/16 in my case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jid2 Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 (edited) Interesting. I have the Shoto Comp on my gun, with two 3/16" holes in the barrel. It does not track as well as my other gun, which uses a Brazos comp and the same two barrel holes. The new comp is kinda a wild design. Edited December 9, 2013 by jid2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstag Posted December 9, 2013 Author Share Posted December 9, 2013 Interesting. I have the Shoto Comp on my gun, with two 3/16" holes in the barrel. It does not track as well as my other gun, which uses a Brazos comp and the same two barrel holes. The new comp is kinda a wild design. It is cool looking, have to give it that. Just to clarify my gun is a 9 and the barrel has 2 .125 holes and in the comp I put 2 3/16 holes. I think for 9mm you do .125 barrel holes and in 38 SC 3/16. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoops! Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 The new one reminds me of Jp Precision's AR comp. I'd love to see a comparison between this and a Dawson comp . . . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerMeister Posted December 9, 2013 Share Posted December 9, 2013 Here is a short video of the comp test from Redstag: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robot Posted December 11, 2013 Share Posted December 11, 2013 Here is a short video of the comp test from Redstag: Looks like any other Open Gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerMeister Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 That may be the case. What kind of comp are you running, Robot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 (edited) Trigger you could flatten that gun out if you fix your mechanics. Look at the way your hands are moving to the rear. Edited December 12, 2013 by AWLAZS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriggerMeister Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 LOL....my hands are prettier than that! But for the sake of ever learning can you expand on your mechanics comment? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CB45 Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 Take a look at how your weak hand is gripping the gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted December 12, 2013 Share Posted December 12, 2013 check your pm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AWLAZS Posted December 13, 2013 Share Posted December 13, 2013 Watch your video. Don't look at the gun focus on the shooters hands. They are moving quite a bit while the gun is firing. I would guess the shooter has his elbows bent an is allowing the gun to push back into them. When the elbows get hit by the recoil impulse they bend moving the gun in a circular motion. Like the wheels on an old locomotive. This movement exaggerates movement at the muzzle. Keeping the elbows parallel to the ground and rotating the wrist forward like Blake talks about in the above video allow the gun to track flatter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
canuk Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Watch your video. Don't look at the gun focus on the shooters hands. They are moving quite a bit while the gun is firing. I would guess the shooter has his elbows bent an is allowing the gun to push back into them. When the elbows get hit by the recoil impulse they bend moving the gun in a circular motion. Like the wheels on an old locomotive. This movement exaggerates movement at the muzzle. Keeping the elbows parallel to the ground and rotating the wrist forward like Blake talks about in the above video allow the gun to track flatter. I too appreciate these comments. cheers, J. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lcs Posted December 16, 2013 Share Posted December 16, 2013 Is the comp with or without popple holes ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstag Posted December 16, 2013 Author Share Posted December 16, 2013 The barrel has two .125 holes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aaronk Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 I like the grip advice. Even though Redstag is a master class shooter, I guess there is always room for improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted December 20, 2013 Share Posted December 20, 2013 Hello: If the comp is built right it would not need any holes in the barrel. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstag Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 Hello: If the comp is built right it would not need any holes in the barrel. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstag Posted December 20, 2013 Author Share Posted December 20, 2013 For the shoto comp in 9 major I followed AKAI's advice on the 2 .125 barrel holes. I just fit a new barrel and will try the new style comp without holes this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Hello: Let us know how it works for you. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whoops! Posted December 21, 2013 Share Posted December 21, 2013 Hello: If the comp is built right it would not need any holes in the barrel. Thanks, Eric I would add that it depends on the load. Sometimes there just isn't enough pressure to use at the end of the barrel, regardless of comp design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redstag Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 I fitted the new barrel with the new style comp and decided I missed the noise and felt as though it was more "snappy". I added back the 2 .125 poppel holes and it definitely felt better. Not satisfied that the new style comp was better then the shoto style but not wanting to spend another $175 I programmed a Haas to make one. Making a exact duplicate I will test again soon, and since I went this far I changed the design a little and made a second comp with slots and smaller ports thinking it may be better suited for 9 major? Here are a couple pics, hopefully I can try shooting this weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
donnyglock Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Making your own comps...... I hate you !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aircooled6racer Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 Hello: Keep playing with the comp designs and you will get there. I would start again with no holes in the barrel till you get what you want. It took me a while to get it right but when you do the gun just feels so good. Thanks, Eric Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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