Travtastik Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I picked up a 625JM to start using for some local matches and I am left with a few questions. #1 is there a advantage to running small or large primer brass? A local shop guy told me that I need to run SP brass as much as possible. I do plan to reload so if I need to get some SP brass I can start looking. #2 I need a suggestion on equipment for IDPA. I plan to shoot IDPA for the most part and may venture into some other matches once I get a idea of what I am doing with this thing. #3 is there any have to do mods that I need to preform out of the box or parts you would suggest a new revo shooter to have on hand? Trying to get everything I need on my Christmas list so I can use it in January not have to be out of pocket for a lot (more) money I have shoot revolvers most of my life but I have never tried to compete with one and I am excited to get started. My dad has never owned anything but wheel guns so I am sure this will get him interested in getting out and trying something new also. Thanks for the help. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I would start by suggesting you not take advice from your local shop guy. Good luck with your wheelgunning! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slflr Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Large primer brass picked off the range is free and will suit you well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bubber Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I use the small primer 45 brass, only because I do not want to change over from small ( for the 38's) to large (for the 45) As sflr says " Large primer picked of the range is free and will suit you well" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Congrats on the 625 purchase. I just bought mine last month and really like it. I'll take a stab at some of your questions: Large vs small primers - it's easier to pick one size and stick with it. I have more large than small primer .45 brass so I load with large primers and my brass guy swaps me for any small primer brass that I may find. I don't shoot IDPA but check out this youtube video. In it Jerry shows you what he uses: As far as mods go - I would consider a fiber optic front sight. ToolGuy here on the forum makes them for the 625 and they come highly recommended. You can read more about that sight here: http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=115209&p=1306887 Other than replacing the sight I wouldn't do any other mods until you've shot it alot. After getting lots of trigger time on it you'll know what you'll want to change. I know I'll have a trigger job done on mine eventually but for now I'm concentrating on improving me over improving the gun . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slflr Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Shoot it like you bought it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Travtastik Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 Thanks for the help. I put no faith in the sales guy I got it from but I did want to ask. I will have to check out the video and see what it had to offer. I would love to take up something other then IDPA with it but its the only thing close to where I am. Anything else is about a 2 hour ride one way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toolguy Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 OK - that takes care of the first 3 questions, what are the other 622? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RussB Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Welcome to the world of revolvers! Couple recommendations, Get a lot of moonclips. Ranch Products sells 'em cheap. I have a couple hundred. I always load up enough moonclips before hand so I don't have to mess with them at the match http://www.ranchproducts.com/ Get a moonclip tool. I use the simple "pipe with a handle" type. http://www.brownells.com/shooting-accessories/speedloaders-accessories/moonclip-accessories/moon-clip-stripper-prod6727.aspx I really like a fiber optic front sight, but it's all personal choice. I use a Blade-Tech holster. All my 45acp brass has large primers Edited December 2, 2013 by RussB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothguy Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 That's a good video, it pretty much covers the equipment. I noticed that Mr. Miculek is using what looks like Hogue grips and not his signature wood grips. I like his wood grips but only after I modify them to fit my hand and add skate board tape. The Hogue grips are a lot more forgiving to shoot. I would get a trigger job done right from the start, it makes a big difference and a front fiber optic from Protocol Design. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadowrider Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Small primer .45 brass is the debil! I give all mine to bubber. Problem is that getting it all back at matches means you never have to buy more. That's a problem right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
4mike Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) #4 Carmonize :-) Edited December 2, 2013 by 4mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 OK - that takes care of the first 3 questions, what are the other 622? I'll help with some questions I have: #4 - Chamfering cylinders - does it really make a difference when reloading? #5 - Will the trigger from the Performance Center 625 drop into the JM 625? #6 - Will the hammer from the Performance Center 625 drop into the JM 625? #8 - Assuming one could find one would there be any benefit in replacing the 4" barrel with a 5"? I know 5" wouldn't be IDPA legal though but would be for USPSA and ICORE. #9 - Until one gets a proper trigger job done would it be worth while to install a Wilson Combat reduced spring kit? #10 - Regarding trigger jobs should one send it back to S&W to have the Performance Center do it or find a gunsmith to do it? Only 615 to go Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) OK - that takes care of the first 3 questions, what are the other 622? I'll help with some questions I have: #4 - Chamfering cylinders - does it really make a difference when reloading? Absoultely, i'd mark this down as *must have * if doing reloads on the clock #5 - Will the trigger from the Performance Center 625 drop into the JM 625? It should, though may require some fitting - the PC internals really dont count as a " trigger job " though #6 - Will the hammer from the Performance Center 625 drop into the JM 625? see above #8 - Assuming one could find one would there be any benefit in replacing the 4" barrel with a 5"? I know 5" wouldn't be IDPA legal though but would be for USPSA and ICORE. - Up to you, alot of shooters prefer the longer sight radius , so that's why they are more desirable. #9 - Until one gets a proper trigger job done would it be worth while to install a Wilson Combat reduced spring kit? Yes, though i'd stick with the Bang Inc spring kit, or the wolff reduced power. #10 - Regarding trigger jobs should one send it back to S&W to have the Performance Center do it or find a gunsmith to do it? No, find a gunsmith who knows revolvers. Only 615 to go Edited December 2, 2013 by alecmc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackJones Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Regarding #5/#6 I understand swapping PC parts isn't the same as having a trigger job done but one of the things I liked about the PC trigger is that it has the trigger stop installed and is smooth (although I shot steel challenge with the stock trigger and it wasn't bad feeling even after 125 rounds). I had originally thought the hammers on the PC and JM were different but after double checking just now I think only difference is finish. Regarding #10 - Any recommendations? I know Carmoney has done them but I thought I read he's no longer doing them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) www.apextactical.com Edited December 2, 2013 by alecmc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alecmc Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 instead of swaping out parts, which may or may not work, buy yourself some stones and smooth up the internals yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothguy Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 http://www.clarkcustomguns.com/revserv.htm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hopalong Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 If you find a five inch barrel you can get every thing you need done at Clark Cusom. They installed my 6" barrel on my 646 project. If you want the P C trigger buy it and have them install while doing an action job. I would suggest the "Black Magik"spring kit from Vic Pickett (found at icore.org) but that is my personal choice. Then l would use Jerrys Bang kit. Both work great and very few people can feel the difference in them. ESPECIALLY in the USPSA/IPSC type games. PPC now that is a horse of a different color. Just my .02 cents worth. . . . . . . . . . . . . . .But what do l know? Hopalong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EEH Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 They installed my 6" barrel on my 646 project. Now that's different.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmoney Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 Regarding #10 - Any recommendations? I know Carmoney has done them but I thought I read he's no longer doing them? Correct--I quit working on revolvers in mid-2011. I recommend Apex in CA, Frank Glenn in AZ, and Clark's in LA. I am informed that Tom Kilhoffer at TK Custom in IL has resumed working on revolver actions also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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