kirbinster Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I was out shooting a steel match this weekend and noticed that about 70% of the time when I slam a new mag into the gun the slide slams shut by itself. Sometimes it does not do it and I don't know if it is because I did not slam the mag in as hard or what. Is it designed to do this or is there a defect in my gun that is allowing this. One person told me that it will happen all the time if I have the gun pointed up at a 45 degree angle, but might not if I have it pointed straight out. So, bottom line is it designed to do this or is something wrong with my gun? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 Most of my cz do what u describe, I do not believe it is designed that way. I do not believe it is a flaw. It's not the only firearm design where it is present in reloading. I believe it is due more to the plastic mag follower than anything else. The more they wear, the more it happens Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TerryT Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 It is not a flaw. You can do it with a number of guns. I can do it with my CZ and my Glock if I point the gun right and slam the mag in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FLHX Posted November 12, 2013 Share Posted November 12, 2013 I can do this on all my Glocks and my CZ that I sold recently. Ialso noticed that It happened on my 1911 the other day during a match. I have not seen this happen on my 1911 but I have no problem with this as it will speed up reloads. Howard how is that new 75b? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbinster Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share Posted November 12, 2013 The CZ is great. I like it so much that I am purchasing another one with lots of work done by the CZ custom shop. Can't wait to pick it up this Saturday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbinster Posted November 12, 2013 Author Share Posted November 12, 2013 So, its a feature. The old problem I found is I started to grow to expect it, so it added a bit of time when it did not "self rack" and I had to realize it and manually rack the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magsz Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Why are you slamming mags into the gun? There is simply no need to do so. All semi auto's can do this if you slam the magazine in hard enough and at the right angle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 The wire that holds the mag release puts pressure to push the release down. Take any pressure off that and it pops down. With that said if you rely on this feature it WILL fail you at some point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDPMatt Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 It's neither.... It's a reload technique flaw. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbinster Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 Why are you slamming mags into the gun? There is simply no need to do so. All semi auto's can do this if you slam the magazine in hard enough and at the right angle. I guess cause I learned from experience if I don't that sometimes the mag does not catch and falls out - at least I've had this happen with 1911's. Maybe slamming is not the correct word, maybe its more slapping. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Magsz Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Slapping is even worse than slamming... Work on positively seating the mag or fix your hardware. A properly set up semi auto will lock mags in with ease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbinster Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 OK I guess I am having a hard time explaining this. I have four other semi-auto handguns and this is the only one that behaves this way and I am not doing anything differently with this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czhase Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 So, its a feature. The old problem I found is I started to grow to expect it, so it added a bit of time when it did not "self rack" and I had to realize it and manually rack the slide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czhase Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 Do you use the slide release, or rack the slide after the reload? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbinster Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 That depends of the gun. I generally rack it on my Glock G22 as the slide release is so small it is hard to use, on my othe guns I do use the slide release. Why do you ask? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
z40acp Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I have read some threads on here about S&W M&P's doing this. I have a 9 Pro and it has never done this. Earlier this year I bought a SP01 Shadow Target and it will close like you describe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Czhase Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 My SP 01 does the same thing when seating the mag, I just always plan on dropping the slide with the release, if it does it on its own that's just a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Akacala Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 All of my (75 shadow, sp01 shadow, and 97b) do this pretty much 90%+ of the time. Like CZhase I always plan on it not happening. Haven't shot the p07 enough yet to recall if it does it too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted November 13, 2013 Share Posted November 13, 2013 I'm not sure it has anything to do with the mag release wire. what happens is the slide has locked back and the slide stop is holding it. when you push in the new mag it jolts the slide stop and slide is release. it's of benefit for fast reloads. the real question though is why are you running dry all the time!?! you should be planning your reloads and still have at least 1 round in there. then it becomes a non-issue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbinster Posted November 13, 2013 Author Share Posted November 13, 2013 Not in IDPA where it calls for slide lock reload Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerBaron Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Not in IDPA where it calls for slide lock reload mah bad! carry on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 Not in IDPA where it calls for slide lock reload gun just has to go dry, no procedural for no slide lock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kirbinster Posted November 14, 2013 Author Share Posted November 14, 2013 Not in IDPA where it calls for slide lock reload gun just has to go dry, no procedural for no slide lock Not sure I understand your distinction here. The gun must go dry, which means nothing in the chamber, therefore the slide should go back. Or am I missing something here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cnote Posted November 14, 2013 Share Posted November 14, 2013 (edited) Not in IDPA where it calls for slide lock reload gun just has to go dry, no procedural for no slide lock Not sure I understand your distinction here. The gun must go dry, which means nothing in the chamber, therefore the slide should go back. Or am I missing something here. not a requirement, some firearms are incapable of slide lock after last shot by design Glock actually calls the part a slide release Edited November 14, 2013 by cnote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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