MetropolisLake Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) So basically I thought 2011's were only made by STI. But... there's the whole Scarab thing: http://www.predatortactical.com/Handgun_Editions/3_Gun_Nation_Custom_Scarab_p464.html Looks like an STI frame with other stuff on it. Now that I saw that I'm noticing other brands, seeing things that is definitely not on STI's site, with all kinds of ports and serrations on the slide that look badass. What is going on with them? How do you just build a 2011? I don't get it. Since you can apparently do this, where is the best place to get a cost effective one, meaning cheaper than what STI would sell one for? I'm about ready to sell my other guns and get one but it is ALOT of money. Edited October 10, 2013 by MetropolisLakeOutfitters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 (edited) STI originally consisted of Virgil Tripp and Sandy Strayer - they jointly held the patent on the 2011. When they split it was then STI and Strayer and Mike Voight and it became SVI. Two companies making essentially the same gun. One point I left out originally, when they first came out they were sold thru CMC - Chip McCormick - which didn't last too terribly long (I had one of the first ones). They had CMC on the grip, doubt you'll ever see one but it is possible. Edited October 10, 2013 by Steve RA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jlamphere Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 I think the patent has expired and others are getting into making the frames now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lifeislarge Posted October 10, 2013 Share Posted October 10, 2013 Google it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
latech15 Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 STI sells complete guns themselves, but they also sell bare frames, slides, and all the parts for gunsmiths to build them. The prices that STI sells their factory built guns for is generally the cheapest that you will find a 2011. The gunsmiths spend tons of time doing the custom machining, fitting, polishing, and finishing of all of the parts to make it into a better product than a factory built gun. (most of the time) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MetropolisLake Posted October 11, 2013 Author Share Posted October 11, 2013 STI sells complete guns themselves, but they also sell bare frames, slides, and all the parts for gunsmiths to build them. The prices that STI sells their factory built guns for is generally the cheapest that you will find a 2011. The gunsmiths spend tons of time doing the custom machining, fitting, polishing, and finishing of all of the parts to make it into a better product than a factory built gun. (most of the time) This is the part I didn't understand. I've never heard of a proprietary manufacturer doing that. Customizing, yes, but a customized glock is still a glock. You still always start out with a fully built entire factory glock as far as I know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve RA Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 There is a first time for everything ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 Gun builders order frames and all parts to put a gun together, do the machining that you see which is usually unique to that builder and custom fit ll the parts. Done properly a gun built on an STI frame is waay better than an STI factory gun. On many builds the only thing STI are the frames, grips and slide. All other parts are higher quality aftermarket custom fitted parts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted October 11, 2013 Share Posted October 11, 2013 They do it because they make money selling the parts now there are other companies making the frame and a grip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
2o2ll Posted March 24, 2014 Share Posted March 24, 2014 oh ok, so there's more to it than just a double stack 1911 style pistol haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jerson0208 Posted March 25, 2014 Share Posted March 25, 2014 google or youtube akai, svi, limcat, brazos, and 2011 just a few and should bring you to different but same 2011's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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