photog Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I've looked and can't find a reference in the rule book. Can I design a stage at a Level I USPSA handgun match that requires the use of a rifle/carbine to engage targets? Or would it be better to "allow" the use of the rifle for the distant targets? It would be a single rifle that ALL competitors would have to use. I envision giving each a mag with 10 rounds of factory ammo. Example: Starting in Box A, retrieve the M1 Carbine on the table, load it and engage the 2 steel plates located 50yds downrange. Dump the unloaded rifle in the safety container, and engage the remaining targets as the become available. OR make the Carbine optional, and allow the handgun use on the plates at 50yds at the shooters discretion. I'm really looking for a rule based opinion, is this OK? Does it violate a USPSA rule? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 No. 6.1.3 Match – Consists of a minimum of 2 stages. The total sum of individual stage results will be accumulated to declare a match winner. A match must include only one type of firearm (e.g. handgun, shotgun or rifle). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
photog Posted September 10, 2013 Author Share Posted September 10, 2013 Thats what I read too, but wasn't sure if it was "allowed" as some things are at a level 1 match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sperman Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 The level 1 exemptions are few and very specific. Using a rifle in a handgun match isn't one of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JAFO Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 You can do it as an 'outlaw match', just don't advertise it as a USPSA match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 (edited) Not allowed and stage guns are a bad idea anyway as your expecting a shooter to safely operate a gun they may or may not be familiar operating and shoot that gun for score. Also expect to have that gun abused by the shooters using it. Personally I would ground that gun the fastest way possible and that's gonna be pretty darn rough Edited September 10, 2013 by EkuJustice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ming the Merciless Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I believe 3 Gun Nation (yes, I know, not USPSA rules) used a stage gun at a number of matches. The competitor used the stage gun, then hit the Start button that started the official stage timer. You could do something to the same effect with a self start timer, then if the stage gun malfunctions, the shooter is unfamiliar with it, etc... it doesn't completely upset the 'legal' portion of the stage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkCO Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 (edited) YES, you can if you want to run it as a MG match. I just ran a MG match and set up the stages so paper was rifle or pistol, steel was shotgun or pistol. We had 4 USPSA pistol shooters come shoot the match. A few shot just pistol and shotgun and a few shot pistol and rifle only. MG 10.2.8 Competitors may be required to use a prop gun supplied by the Match Director on a stage to start the course of fire; it may not be required to engage more than three (3) targets before abandoning it. The prop gun and all related ammunition and equipment will be provided by the host match officials and be the same for all competitors. Any malfunction necessitates a reshoot. 3Gun Nation only has run Pro matches and the stage guns were not for score. Edited September 10, 2013 by MarkCO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnRodriguez Posted September 11, 2013 Share Posted September 11, 2013 you may be able to if its .355 caliber or bigger??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayWord Posted September 16, 2013 Share Posted September 16, 2013 Thats what I read too, but wasn't sure if it was "allowed" as some things are at a level 1 match. Rule 4.6.1.1 does not allow the use of stage guns in handgun matches. This rule removed all officer down and other type stages. Jay Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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