Shooter Grrl Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 I'm having a great time speaking my mind - but damn, no one seems to want to play I'll have to think up a super controversy next time... hmm - any ideas? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 Tell them that Limited shooters are a bunch of wusses that are afraid to compete with the big dogs, that should stir them up...if not explain in length the benitfits of shooting IDPA/Action Pistol/Steel/PPC over IPSC...lol...or just say that IPSC shooters are a bunch of wankers that can't shoot straight so they blast at 5yd targets...LMAO As you can tell, I love playing devils advocate and I'm rather talented at P****** people off Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 Tell 'em the rules are enforcd too rigidly, and we need more subjectivity among RO's, especially with range commands...Then RUN! SA (load 'em up cowboy!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter Grrl Posted June 25, 2002 Author Share Posted June 25, 2002 I thought I did pretty well with this last "brownie badge" post, but all I got were off list kudos for speaking up :-) Of course, my paid staff post generated a good response, but mostly why it wouldn't work stuff - but it died real quick too! I'm thinking about starting a thread on why IDPA should take over IPSC - that'll get 'em going! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 Shooter Grrl, Make sure you mention that IDPA is "real life tactical training" and IPSC/USPSA is space gun gaming. That should stoke a few fires! -jhgtyre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rich Bagoly Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 Oh? How fun is it when some poor unenlightened soul looses his way from the IPSC list, and unknowingly befouls our happy home here? You want to do that to them on purpose? For shame! Try telling them that factory 357 SIG ammo makes major, and should be allowed as major in all divisions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ErikW Posted June 25, 2002 Share Posted June 25, 2002 I unsubscribed long ago. Forward me anything about the Crazy Croc, especially the Geek's reports. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDean Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 I was subscribed for a couple days,...too long! The worthless messages held my mailbox captive until I figured out how to unsubscribe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter Grrl Posted June 26, 2002 Author Share Posted June 26, 2002 The IPSC list has been moved to a new server and is using new software - you can subscribe now and NOT receive emails - but instead can go browse the archives for posts of interest to you - a BIG improvement, IMHO. http://www.boudrie.com/mailman/listinfo/ipsc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bret Heidkamp Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 Try telling them your Lee press is so much more wonderful than a Dillon: cheaper, works just as well, etc. and you don't know why anyone would ever buy an "overpriced" Dillon. That should work. Bret Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 That would probly rile us up pretty good here... SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EricW Posted June 26, 2002 Share Posted June 26, 2002 Why not revive the Power Factor / Caliber debate? I mean with cartridges like 45 Win Mag, 50AE and 454 Casull, 45 ACP isn't the powerhouse it used to be. Let's quit living in the past and bump major PF to say...400. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 Or better yet, bump .40 caliber cartridges to minor...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 How about "chickensh*t" reshoots? BTW, what do you guys think about the Avery controversy? I can see both sides... SA (Edited by Steve Anderson at 7:36 am on June 27, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 My thoughts on Load and Make Ready. When I draw the gun, I'm responsible. I've been known to ask the R.O. to walk to the edge of vision barriers and to make sure there's no one downrange when he gives the command. I try to keep track of the number people on the stage --- and make sure they're all behind me. If I can't hear LAMR clearly, I'll ask. If I'm standing in the box and want to get going, and the R.O. is attending to other stuff, I may look at him until his attention shifts to me. I've been known to ask LAMR, to prompt him to start the range commands. But I won't draw my gun until I'm sure I've heard LAMR AND until I'm sure it's safe for me to do so. I'm anal about this, because if anyone gets shot by me, even by accident, I'm the guy getting sued, locked up, etc. Worse yet, I'll know that it was a preventable accident and that's an experience I'd rather do without. However, if the range is clear, and there's an R.O. within arms reach, and he's said something to the shooter in the box, I think a stern warning and possibly a bump down in the shooting order is appropriate. Repeated violations should add up to a DQ. I also think that if you're an R.O. working a tournament level match, where you don't know all the shooters, the closer you can stick to the approved range commands the better your chance of moving competitors through the course of fire safely and efficiently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 I agree. I'm not sure whether a DQ was warranted in Avery's case, but I'm not an official RO, and I wasn't there, so I'm not qualified to have an opinion. 'course, I do anyway... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38supPat Posted June 27, 2002 Share Posted June 27, 2002 What happened to Avery? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Short version...he whipped out his blaster too early at the Area 4 match. Took a sight picture. RO said he didn't give the LAMR command...DQ'ed Avery. Avery got upset, said things, called for the RM. RM over-turned the RO. Avery won the match. (hear-say on my part) Read all about it on the USPSA members guestbook. (Edited by Flexmoney at 7:34 pm on June 27, 2002) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted June 28, 2002 Share Posted June 28, 2002 Little more detail... Avery's muffs were turned down, Ro said something and Avery thought he heard LAMR and proceeded to do so. Moral of the story: If you're not sure what was said, ask again. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nolan Posted June 29, 2002 Share Posted June 29, 2002 Quote: from Shooter Grrl on 10:30 am on June 25, 2002 I'm having a great time speaking my mind - but damn, no one seems to want to play Gee, I wonder why? Nobody likes being handed their head on a platter....along with their testicles! I'm just sad that bunch of flamin' jerks didn't want to play. I wanted to watch you eviscerate a couple of self important blowhards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter Grrl Posted July 3, 2002 Author Share Posted July 3, 2002 Tee hee hee - check out this response I just posted "It is not "illegal" nor is it "cheating" to have 30 rounds in a mag. The match officials acted perfectly in accordance with the rule book. If I wasn't in such a good mood, I'd point out what this post says about you and your "buddy", but I figure I've caused enough trouble here the last couple of weeks." Spitoli posted about some guy that shot a 30 round stage without a reload, got his mags measured and then finished the match for fun. Spitty seems to think that this guy cheated, because he shot it faster than anyone else... Spitteri thinks he should have been DQ'ed for cheating - isn't that ahoot. I don't need to antagonize the idjots - they do a damn good job all by themselves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Even though his mags were measured as too long? "Of course his magazine was too long (measured by the CRO & RM) and his scores were removed from the match. But he was not DQ'ed and no mention was made of his cheating and he was allowed to CONTINUE SHOOTING THE MATCH for fun." I must be missing something... SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shooter Grrl Posted July 3, 2002 Author Share Posted July 3, 2002 Yup - even if his mags were too long! The rule book is VERY specific about the penalties for illegal equipment and DQ isn't it ;-) My point is that Sam and his buddy are assuming the guy is a cheater because of this. My next post should clear up that misconception!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Anderson Posted July 3, 2002 Share Posted July 3, 2002 Gotcha. I thought you were defending the mags, not shooting for fun. You're right, no DQ. SA Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MBneACP Posted July 9, 2002 Share Posted July 9, 2002 Okay Shooter Grrl! Don't I get some kind of award for *really* stirring up the IPSC list? I truly believe I'm the only IPSC shooter to ever have his sexual orientation vetted by no less than the NATIONAL REVIEW, not to mention my "Jesus is gonna get you!" hate mail (which has now superceded my "baby-killer" hate mail). I haven't been this popular since I said range officers would always be secondary to shooters! Your adoring fan... MB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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