Krag Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 I have been shooting Production with various 9mm pistols for almost three years now. I noticed the other day that I have a large quantity of .40 reloading components gathering dust in my reloading room. I am considering unlimbering my G35 and using it in Production matches with downloaded .40 ammo. To make major with a .40 you only have to push a 180 gr. bullet to 695 fps. I should be pretty soft shooting? The primary reason I switched to Production is that I have severe carpal tunnel in both wrists and shooting Major .40 and .45 loads just got too painful. Any suggestions Pro or Con would be appreciated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 The G35 loaded to Minor is perfect for Production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RIIID Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 Krag, I've been shooting a 40 in Prod. for the last 2 years. It's a great choice very soft shooting. I"ve been using 150's and 180's JHPs . Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alan Meek Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 Turtle (aka Todd Sindelar) shoots a Glock 22 in production. IRC his load is like 3.0 grains of clays and a Zero 180jhp. Sounds like a 22lr. (If you do a search I think you will find his load data here) Alan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted October 29, 2004 Share Posted October 29, 2004 I love my G35 loaded at minor (180 gr Montana Gold over 3.2-3.4 gr of Titegroup OAL of 1.125) with a 13lb recoil spring it is like shooting my buckmark 22. The front site barely leaves the notch and there is very little rearward recoil. A buddy of mine with a G34 will tell you all day that the .40 is softer at minor than his 9. To me they are about the same. But either way they are both very soft. Good Luck, Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krag Posted October 29, 2004 Author Share Posted October 29, 2004 Thanks guys. I think I'm going to start playing with the old Dillon. I like WW231 and think I'll start with 3.8 gr. and a 180 gr. bullet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bear1142 Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 +1 on the Glock 35 for Production. I use Montana Gold 155's at around 900 fps. Very nice setup. Erik Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 i used to shoot a G22 in production by all means don't consider it a hinderance. minor 40's shoot great.... almost as good as 9mm minor ;-) maybe just as good if the experoments prove buzzworthy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eye Cutter Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 I shot a G22 for IPSC PD for over a year before I got my CZ85B in 9mm and Para P18-9 LDA. Armscor 180gr fmj 4.0gr N320. PF=140 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krag Posted October 31, 2004 Author Share Posted October 31, 2004 I worked up two loads yesterday that show promise. Both are very accurate with soft recoil and function my G35 reliably: - 180 gr. lead, 3.5 gr. of WW231: 737 fps - 132.6 PF - 180 gr. JHP, 3.7 gr. WW231: 707 fps - 127 PF I may drop the powder charge on the lead load another tenth and see what that does. Otherwise I'm ready to run. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krag Posted October 31, 2004 Author Share Posted October 31, 2004 Was out today shooting the light .40 loads and discovered a problem: the slide won't lock open on an empty mag. I am using a factory spring/guide rod unit (17 lbs.). I talked to my local Glocksmith and he feels the slide does not have enough velocity suggested I replace it with a Wolff 14 or 15 lbs. spring. Opinions???? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANeat Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 I love my G35 loaded at minor (180 gr Montana Gold over 3.2-3.4 gr of Titegroup OAL of 1.125) with a 13lb recoil spring it is like shooting my buckmark 22. Craig mentioned that he runs a 13 lb spring. Try a lighter spring, springs are cheap and easy to change. Start with a 15, If you still have problems go with a 13. Ive shot a couple of matches with a G34 but the Glock grip didnt fit me to well Next year I plan on trying an XD40 Tactical. 40 minor here I come Adam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
smokshwn Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 Krag, Yes a spring change is almost mandatory. At minor PF with the stock 17lb. spring I am surprised you didn't have a few FTF's or FTE's. I replaced my stock recoil setup with a noncaptured steel guiderod but if you search around there are instructions on taking apart the stock rod at which time you can fit the ISMI springs on them. I have no experience with Wolffs springs but from reports I don't think there would be a huge functional difference. Anyway, for my load that I listed I get a PF of 130-132, and use a 13lb ISMI spring with excellent reliability. My major loads at 170ish PF require a 15lb spring for excellent reliability. Take care, Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billwright Posted October 31, 2004 Share Posted October 31, 2004 Hi, I use a G22 and find it really good with 3.5gn n320 under 180gn proj. I am useing the old stock spring which is tired and seems to function ok at this low PF of 134. Question?? Does Glock make a reduced power spring? and if not are we allowed to use a reduced power spring from another maker? would it be legal for IPSC PD. If not, then how do I fit a new spring that will work at 134pf. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 ISMI gunsprings makes about the closest thing you can get. the 17 (9mm spring is supposed to be one pound lighter than the 22 (40) spring) ISMI works on your factory rod also. if your not doing IDPA... shot a SS guide rod in my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billwright Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 Hi Guys, I've just checked the rule book and as far as I can see, for IPSC PD you have to use the original Glock spring and for the life of me I can't see where Glock make a reduced power (13lb) spring. My old spring for the G22 is tired and works ok at 134pf but what do I do about a replacement? Can I cut a couple of coils off it and still be legal for IPSC PD ? What spring are all you blokes using who say you are shooting about the same PF? Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 I use the stock spring in my G35 when shootng minor (Zero 180's, 3.5g of TG, @ 1.135 OAL). But, my stock spring is well "used". And, it still barely dumps the brass out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billwright Posted November 1, 2004 Share Posted November 1, 2004 I guess there must be a lot of tired stock springs out there suddenly. Bill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texasag93 Posted November 3, 2004 Share Posted November 3, 2004 Little late on the topic but I will be shooting a G35 for production starting next year. I have haulting all shooting sports for hunting season. TXAG Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Marques Posted November 8, 2004 Share Posted November 8, 2004 Krag: I use a G35 also. Clays is what I burn, behind a 180 they both are V E R Y soft! I use the stock recoil spring and guide rod and don't have any short stroke problems, but I think I grip the gun kinda tight. Anyways, my two cents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krag Posted November 9, 2004 Author Share Posted November 9, 2004 I had to go to a 12 lbs. spring to get my G35 to lock the slide back on an empty mag. I ran my "Lite .40" loads through my G22 today with the factory recoil spring and everything worked as it was supposed to. I'm going to experiment with some other powders (Bullseye, TiteGroup, Unique ???) and see what happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Krag Posted November 9, 2004 Author Share Posted November 9, 2004 I just checked with John Abidon at USPSA and was told that it is permissible for Production shooters to replace the Glock's factory spring and guide rod with aftermarket parts. I don't know about IDPA - but then who does? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kevin Kline Posted November 9, 2004 Share Posted November 9, 2004 Im going to start shooting my Sig 226 in 40 in Production. Its going to be a switch from shooting my STI's in Limited, but I think the 40 is fine for Production. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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