Son Of The Griz Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 At a recent club match I shot there was a shooter who registered in Single Stack and shot his Kimber Ultra Carry (3" gun). One guy in our squad was arguing the Single Stack rules required a 5" gun and that he'd have to shoot L10. Sounded bogus, and Appendix D5 rule 22 (modifications not approved) reads: "Coned barrels, bull barrels, or barrels with flanges, except in 1911 compact pistols with a barrel length of 4.20 inches or less. (Note: All other barrels must have barrel bushings and conform to factory profile)." I think the Kimber shooter got shafted if they kept him in L10. Am I right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gemcityshooter Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Yes. His 3" barrel allowed him to shoot in Single Stack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GrumpyOne Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I want to know where in the rules it says it has to be a 5" barrel. Only size requirement I can see is that it must fit the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GuildSF4 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Wow, what an advantage he would have had in Single Stack... A light gun and short sight radius... (and lower capacity magazines if he shoots the factory issued ones...) Less than 43 oz, fits in box with magazine inserted. Cone bushing allowed if less than 4.2". From Appendix D5 7 Maximum size Handgun and all magazines| Yes | handgun with empty magazine inserted must fit wholly within a box with internal dimensions of 8 15/16” x 6” x 1 5/8” (tolerance +1/16”, -0”) (8.938” x 6” x 1.625”) (227.01mm x 152.40mm x 41.28mm) 18 Maximum weight | Yes | 43 ounces with empty magazine22 Prohibited modifications and features • | | External modifications or features such as weights or devices to control or reduce recoil (such as, but not limited to, thumb rests or components which could be used as such). •Coned barrels, bull barrels, or barrels with flanges, except in 1911 compact pistols with a barrel length of 4.20 inches or less. (Note: All other barrels must have barrel bushings and conform to factory profile). •Slide lightening, cuts, ports, or any milling deemed to provide a competitive advantage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Sounds like someone was all butthurt over how well the guy was shooting it. However, a bad case of assrash does not a rule make. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StraightUp_OG Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Shafted indeed! Did no one have a rule book in their bag? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpygravy Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Yep. Cry baby got the coal mine. Kimber dude got the shaft. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whitedog Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 I shot my officers in a match, just because. Was legal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gary Stevens Posted June 29, 2013 Share Posted June 29, 2013 At a recent club match I shot there was a shooter who registered in Single Stack and shot his Kimber Ultra Carry (3" gun). One guy in our squad was arguing the Single Stack rules required a 5" gun and that he'd have to shoot L10. Sounded bogus, and Appendix D5 rule 22 (modifications not approved) reads: "Coned barrels, bull barrels, or barrels with flanges, except in 1911 compact pistols with a barrel length of 4.20 inches or less. (Note: All other barrels must have barrel bushings and conform to factory profile)." I think the Kimber shooter got shafted if they kept him in L10. Am I right? Unfortunately a little knowledge can sometimes be a dangerous thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Son Of The Griz Posted July 2, 2013 Author Share Posted July 2, 2013 Thanks, folks. That's how I read it, too. The guy claiming he had to be running a 5" gun was kind of an asshat. I didn't get involved (now I wish I would have) but it definitely sounded way wrong. I'm sure there were a few rule books with us but nobody pressed the issue. Yeah, let's just say he was running his carry gear to do something different that day and while his times were that of a guy reloading after every six or seven shots, he got his As and his gun ran like a champ. More power to him for running his carry rig :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rideandshoot Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 I was doing a little 'google searching' and ran across this topic. I have a related question... I would like to compete in single stack with my 9mm light weight Wilson compact. It has a officers length grip with a 4 inch barrel (so that's not an issue). I'd like to use the 10 round Wilson magazines I have so that I take advantage of shooting minor. At the local practice match I shoot at nobody has an issue with it but I am thinking about shooting some 'official matches' and I'm wondering if they will take issue with the magazine extending the extra 1/2 inch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoshidaex Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 As long as your gun, with a empty magazine inserted, fits into the official box and is below max weight of 43 oz, you're good to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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