GeraldMeharry Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 I purchased a cheap taurus 1911 chambered for 9mm. Worked on it myself and shot a match. I loved it. The question is Should I get a spartan 45 acp save cost in gun or should I get the .40 Trojan save cost in brass/bullets? I reload but currently not prepared to reload either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hiker88 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 If you're planning to shoot S/S major a lot, you should just go straight to 40. Brass is more plentiful and other components are cheaper as well. The more you shoot the bigger the savings. When shooting 45 in a match, I end up spending more time picking up brass instead of focusing more on shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wes777 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 If you don't intend on shooting 45 in some other sport (idpa, bullseye) or division (L-10, revo) then the get a 40. I am hopelessly tied to .45 now and only shoot one division with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lumpygravy Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 If I were buying new, I'd get the 40. The gun is a one time cost (mostly) while components are an ongoing cost. Having just converted from 45 (230gr @ ~175pf) to 40 (180gr @ ~170pf), I'll say that they definitely feel different and I don't think it's so much the PF as it is the lighter bullet in 40. They are both sprung with a 14# recoil and a 17# mainsping. The 40 feels snappy and crisp in comparison to the 45. This could also be the effect of a slightly lighter slide on the 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldMeharry Posted June 26, 2013 Author Share Posted June 26, 2013 Either way I was Planning on 200 grain 40 or 45. I planned on this getting me into 2011s. But I hear that 45 is so much better platform. More flexible then the 40. (I'm surrounded by old school guys) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldMeharry Posted June 26, 2013 Author Share Posted June 26, 2013 Just saw hikers comment and think that's what I wanted to hear. Keeping up with my 45 brass would be a pain. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frag316 Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 If you're planning on going to a 2011 eventually, I'd probably go with a .40 (I shoot .45 single stack now, because a 1911 demands .45 if you're a snob like me), simply because you get more rounds when you shoot limited with a .40 than with a .45 and why make the transition if you don't have to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amish_rabbi Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 Chasing brass ruins my day like nothing else, .40 is the way to go. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldMeharry Posted June 26, 2013 Author Share Posted June 26, 2013 A lot of this is reassurance I won't get crap from the other guys (and my wife). Wifes concealed carry is a kimber ultra carry in 45 acp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Good Looking Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 maybe just have a 40sw top end built for your taurus frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldMeharry Posted June 26, 2013 Author Share Posted June 26, 2013 I wonder how much that would cost me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeRush Posted June 26, 2013 Share Posted June 26, 2013 (edited) A smith can open up a 9mm breechface. You would also want to have the frame cut for a ramped barrel and a .40 barrel and extractor fit. It wouldn't be terribly expensive, although I feel with your base gun I would just leave it a 9 and buy a .40. Check out M2i custom- they have prices for what you would want on their website. Edited June 26, 2013 by MikeRush Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dogtired Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I was loading for Lim Maj already and did not want to start loading 45 acp. The Trojan cost $3-400 more than the Spartan but I would easily drop that on gathering the loading stuff for 45 so in my estimation it was a wash. I really enjoy both the SS and 2011 (mines a Para) guns in 40. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Seriously if you are thinking 2011 get one, don't waste time and money on a SS, if you want to shoot that you got your 9 mm. I can honestly say I haven't lost a dime on buying a gun, it is one of the safest investments around, yes I said investment, not like buying a Dunnie and Burke purse then giving it away at a garage sale after it goes out of style. Pick up a good used Edge with some mags and have a blast! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldMeharry Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share Posted June 27, 2013 I would have to move some stuff. Don't know if I'm financial ready. I think I will leave it up to fate which ever I see up first that I can afford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 I would have to move some stuff. Don't know if I'm financial ready. I think I will leave it up to fate which ever I see up first that I can afford. Fate just rang the door bell http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=177089 These lack the affluent affection of the the S_I, but they will get the job done, Todd Jarret one example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kimberacp Posted June 27, 2013 Share Posted June 27, 2013 Fate just rang the door bell http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=177089 These lack the affluent affection of the the S_I, but they will get the job done, Todd Jarret one example. what was just posted here (about the Para) will not hold you back from climbing the ladder of competition! the above comment about "lack of the affluent affection.... " What matters is practice and desire Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldMeharry Posted June 27, 2013 Author Share Posted June 27, 2013 Yeah just saw that I was about to ask how much a difference they would make. Para vs sti Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CocoBolo Posted June 28, 2013 Share Posted June 28, 2013 Yeah just saw that I was about to ask how much a difference they would make. Para vs sti A us A good used edge will run about $1700 with two or three mags. If you are a C or D class shooter it won't make any difference, you will have just as much fun as a guy shooting a $5000 custom, more cause you won't be worring about your electricty being cut off. If you are a B trying to Roll to A mabye it might be a bit of a hinderance but after that A, M, GM, its all about what works in your hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GeraldMeharry Posted June 28, 2013 Author Share Posted June 28, 2013 Think I'm 74.68 lim with my glock 35 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
38superfan Posted July 1, 2013 Share Posted July 1, 2013 I risk getting laughed at on the range but I bought a ria 10mm to convert to 40s&w for the occasional match. Tight every where, very Nice trigger, cut for parts ramped barrel. The barrel is a bull but a bushing barrel will fit just fine as the slide is cut for one already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dirtychemist Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Picking up 45 brass is actually pretty easy. So many people shoot 40, 38 super, and 9mm and know how precious brass is (especially 45 ACP) that mine is usually the easiest stuff to pick up. I saw one guy who made red stripes around all his brass which made it a little easier to find his stuff (40 S&W) and sort it out of other random brass. I had a 45 ACP and enjoyed shooting it. I only need to make a 230 gr bullet go around 725 FPS to make major. 200 gr goes 800 and is also a good round to shoot. Truthfully if you don't reload 45 (or shoot it a lot right now) AND you shoot 40 a lot then I'd stick with 40. Now, from a competitive standpoint I might go 40 minor just for the extra 2 bullets. I can't tell you how many times I wish I had 2 extra bullets in all 6 mags I have. 12 extra bullets is HUGE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frag316 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 I really think that depends on the match. Most stages for any match not specifically a Single Stack match are designed to be Production-friendly. That's when the extra two rounds makes a difference. But the Single Stack Nats, for example, didn't really reward minor shooters--at least not in my opinion. I shot the Nationals, then re-shot it with some Production folks. I didn't see anything in their stage breakdowns that really showed the extra two rounds helped. However, there were several places at Area 5 where the extra two rounds would have been a big deal--essentially made for an extra reload on any stage above 20 rounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ed_henry Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 Maybe I missed something. SS major is 8 rounds SS minor is 10 rounds. You shoot either 45 or 40 in major SS and still you only have 8 rounds per magazine max. Maybe I read something differently than it was written. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
frag316 Posted July 2, 2013 Share Posted July 2, 2013 You can declare minor in .40 and shoot it with the higher mag capacity. I think there are .40 mags that hold 10 rounds and still fit in the box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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