Nemesis Lead Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I have an Aimpoint T1 which I love and a friend has offered me an Aimpoint M4 at a really good price. The price is so good that I will probably get the M4 in any case, but I was wondering....for those who have experience with both red dots, which do you prefer for 3 gun and why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 The smaller the dot the better if you are shooting at distance especially. On close stuff not a big deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I have an Aimpoint T1 which I love and a friend has offered me an Aimpoint M4 at a really good price. The price is so good that I will probably get the M4 in any case, but I was wondering....for those who have experience with both red dots, which do you prefer for 3 gun and why? Not a big fan of dots for three gun. But both of those optics are good service optics. I prefer the T1 due to the lighter weight. It will do every thing the larger M4 will do with less weight. I have owned both. The only advantage to the M4 is a larger field of view inside the optic which pays off for shooting from akward positions. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCrew Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I agree with popo. For 3gun the weight savings of the T1 is a big benefit. If it was a combat gun I'd go with the m4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I agree with popo. For 3gun the weight savings of the T1 is a big benefit. If it was a combat gun I'd go with the m4. I go the other way - I prefer the bigger FOV of the 30mm tube. I run a ML3 with 2MOA dot. With the overall weight of my 3-Gun rifle, the weight difference between the two optics is immaterial IMHO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 The weight difference isn't bad but I'm one who likes a heavy gun coming from my skeet days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
-Ace- Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 For a service optic the T1 has the advantage of being lightweight, and better outside optic fov. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AKCrew Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Steathly has a point as well lol. My rifle is a tank lol so the weight wouldn't matter. However if I was building a dedicated gun that didn't have to also pull multiple roles I would go light. For 3gun I'd still go with the T1 it is slimmer and not going to get in your way. I am running a ML3 on my backup gun and would like to switch to a T1 one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike4045 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 Guess I am behind the times I use the pro optic. I like the 2moa dot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MstngLX50 Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 I prefer the larger tubes with the 2moa dot. My Micro just sits in the safe while I use the M4 and EOTechs. I really wanted to like it, it wasn't cheap. But the FOV is so much better on the larger tubes I was faster. It's not that the micro covers up so much, just that what it's covering up is so close to the target I'm shooting, or transitioning on to. If I had to carry my gear up a mountain I might re-evaluate. For 3-Gun I think the EOTech models with 2 dots are the way to go, just my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted March 23, 2013 Share Posted March 23, 2013 One thing you can do to increase field of view with the Micro's is move them all the way back as close to your eye as possible. Pat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MstngLX50 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 One thing you can do to increase field of view with the Micro's is move them all the way back as close to your eye as possible. Pat True, it increases the fov in the glass but then the body blocks more from view. I'm not saying it's an unworkable optic, just that I didn't like it as much as I'd hoped I would, or as much as I like the M3 and M4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mic2377 Posted March 24, 2013 Share Posted March 24, 2013 I have a PRO on my other AR. Due to some funky vision causing a bit of blurriness I am very glad that I have the 2 MOA dot. The 4 MOA would be fast for close up but gives up precision for sure. Even a PRO with its QRP mount is half the weight of a 1-4 variable and mount. I also prefer the larger tube and do not feel it is a handicap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BOOST Posted March 25, 2013 Share Posted March 25, 2013 I removed my T1 and mounted it on my Open STI major 9. I use the M4 because of the larger FOV, and i feel that the 4 tiny scews that mounts the T1 just gets me wondering "what if i drop my rifle or hit a barricade"..I have a lightweight barrel anyways. ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alaskapopo Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 (edited) I removed my T1 and mounted it on my Open STI major 9. I use the M4 because of the larger FOV, and i feel that the 4 tiny scews that mounts the T1 just gets me wondering "what if i drop my rifle or hit a barricade"..I have a lightweight barrel anyways. ... Umm they have dropped these things from the back of moving trucks in military testing and they have held their zero and functioned fine. Your not going to hurt a Micro Aimpoint on a wooden barricade they are military tough. https://danieldefense.com/TortureTest Take a look and let any of your fears about durability vanish. Edited March 26, 2013 by Alaskapopo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AustinWolv Posted March 26, 2013 Share Posted March 26, 2013 I agree with popo. For 3gun the weight savings of the T1 is a big benefit. If it was a combat gun I'd go with the m4. I go the other way - I prefer the bigger FOV of the 30mm tube. I run a ML3 with 2MOA dot. With the overall weight of my 3-Gun rifle, the weight difference between the two optics is immaterial IMHO. I agree with this. Put both on the timer against each other and the difference was negligible as well. I was actually faster on target off the beep with the M4S, but was a touch faster on target transition splits with the T1. Regardless, I'm a fan of the 2MOA, whichever actual housing you pursue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrxGuy90 Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I have a m4 and it worked great for me when I had to clear three plate racks at a moderate distance. Sorry I don't remember exactly how far. But when the long shots came up I had a hard time. I still managed to hit the targets at 300 yards but I feel like I would have done so much better with a 1x4. I had a heck of a time trying to clear the Texas start at roughly 125 yards. If its a GREAT price I'd say pick it up for a back up but I'm me personal preference I'm getting something different with magnification. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted March 27, 2013 Share Posted March 27, 2013 I have a m4 and it worked great for me when I had to clear three plate racks at a moderate distance. Sorry I don't remember exactly how far. But when the long shots came up I had a hard time. I still managed to hit the targets at 300 yards but I feel like I would have done so much better with a 1x4. I had a heck of a time trying to clear the Texas start at roughly 125 yards. If its a GREAT price I'd say pick it up for a back up but I'm me personal preference I'm getting something different with magnification. Good luck Indeed, a magnified optic is always going to be easier to use on distant targets. The point of the red dot is that it is Limited-legal. Having just shot SMM3G and getting through the prize table in 15 minutes (versus 1 hour+ for the Tac Scope folks), I can attest to the attraction of Limited division. I also like how the Aimpoints are ultra-robust compares with the non-military magnified optics; I never have to second-guess my zero - if I'm missing I know it is me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrxGuy90 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 If you go m4 though I do believe they make a 3x FTS magnification. I've been meanin to look into it more and ill shoot you the link if I find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StealthyBlagga Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 (edited) If you go m4 though I do believe they make a 3x FTS magnification. I've been meanin to look into it more and ill shoot you the link if I find it. Yeah, don't do this. If you want magnification, get a conventional low power zoom scope. Edited March 28, 2013 by StealthyBlagga Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Graham Smith Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 Just as an aside... While the Micro T1 gets all the press, there is also the Micro H1. Basically the same unit without the night vision and underwater capability and with a lower price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WrxGuy90 Posted March 28, 2013 Share Posted March 28, 2013 I didn't see the practicality of the FTS. You would think you would loose time monkeying with the magnification. But like I said I haven't used one or looked into it to deep yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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