glockdude1 Posted November 18, 2012 Share Posted November 18, 2012 I am new to reloading...been at it for 3 weeks now... I have been driving myself nuts trying to figure out my load combination for my Glock 34 to shoot in non-steel competition (indoor shoots) My preference would be less recoil, but not so much that I get jams once in awhile because the spent shell won't eject fast enough.. I have tried both 115gr and 124 gr jacketed bullets... I am using WW231 powder and have tried different load combinations... Is it true that fast burning powders give you less recoil?....I thought that it was the opposite... A lot of you guys like the VV N320, but it sounds like its' too hard to get, so I want to stick with either 231 or WSF.. Please give me your recommendations for lower recoil, not too dirty to shoot, no spent-shell jams, and greater accuracy.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schedule 40 Posted November 19, 2012 Share Posted November 19, 2012 Welcome to the club of mis-fits. There seem to be very few of us that like using the lighter weight bullets for competition. I actually prefer the 115 FMJ from Zero. My G34 pet load: 115 FMJ (Zero) 4.6 grains of W231 This typically makes 131-132 power factor whe chronoed at major matches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glockdude1 Posted November 20, 2012 Author Share Posted November 20, 2012 I shot a lot of different combinations and some loads with 124 bullets were a little more accurate... Have you noticed a lot of difference between the 115gr and 124gr bullets? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Schedule 40 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 I quite honestly have never shot 124s. I've always had a steady supply of the 115. After about 8,000 of them, I gave the 147s a try with many different powder cominations. I gave them an honest attempt (approximately 2,000), and then switched back to 115s. The difference in recoil impulse is quite noticeable. I dare say that the heavier bullet was definitely softer but also felt very sluggish compared to the quick, snappy behavior of the 115s. I also had a hard time finding a 147 load that was as accurate in my pistol as the 115s. Don't let anybody fool ya'. You can have great success with any of the 3 bullet weights. The real key is just picking one and start sending bullets downrange.....lots of 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noximus03 Posted November 20, 2012 Share Posted November 20, 2012 Personally, I really like a 124 fmj/JHP over tite group. It's worked out really well for me in my 34/17/19 and even better in my Spartan V 9. I hear Solo 1000 is another really good glock powder for a 17/34 also. 124 gr MG JHP'S 4.1 tite group 1.140 OAL 138 average pf with a 10# Wolff spring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kyojin Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 I too really like 124gr bullets with Titegroup. 124gr FMJ 4.0gr Titegroup 1.120 130-132pf Glock 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted November 21, 2012 Share Posted November 21, 2012 Using 4.0 of titegroup at 1.145 here with a 124 Montana gold cmj as its the same bullet I use in my open gun. I like the 124 as it is a good compromise between the 115 snap and the slower 147 in both my 1911 and glock. I like the 147 in the glock but not in the 1911 but the 124 feels good in both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davisjarrett Posted November 24, 2012 Share Posted November 24, 2012 Only been loading for a few monts myself. But the 124 and titegroup is where I am eninnup too. Tried bullseye for awhile but smokes too much. Using Dillon 550 and shooting G34 Gen4 and kimber 1911 9mm. No problems out of either with decent clean barrel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
usmc0326 Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 I tried tite group with CMJ/JHP Montana Gold 124gr. I found it a little snappy for my liking for race. I use power pistol I forget the powder charge, and 1.130 oal with KKM standard throat length barrel. Exceptional accuracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JimM Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Anyone have an accurate load using WSF or WST with 124 gr bullets? Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Suicycle Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 Isn't 231 inverse temp sensitive? So you will slow down in the summer. I ask because I am about to dabble with it in a few loads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sarge Posted November 25, 2012 Share Posted November 25, 2012 My preference would be less recoil, but not so much that I get jams once in awhile because the spent shell won't eject fast enough You have to turn the loads up to prevent stove pipes and such due to low slide speed or short travel. A lot of you guys like the VV N320, but it sounds like its' too hard to get, Maybe at Fred's gun shop but it is in stock at Powder Valley which is where you should be buying from anyway because of availability and price. Just get a few guys together and order in bulk so you can negate the hazmat and shipping. Please give me your recommendations for lower recoil, not too dirty to shoot, no spent-shell jams, and greater accuracy.... 4.3 N320 MG 124 CMJ @1.13 135 PF out of my 34. One of the best loads around. Stable across all temperature ranges and dead nuts consistent through several chrono's. 115's are too snappy, 147's are too sluggish, 124's are juuuuust right. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
judgecrater Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Anyone have an accurate load using WSF or WST with 124 gr bullets? Jim I get outstanding results with 4.8gr WSF OAL 1.120 125 gr. Bear Creek moly coated lead truncated cone bullet. 4.6gr works well too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vaughnje Posted November 29, 2012 Share Posted November 29, 2012 Been using this combo. Seems to work well for my 34 MG 124 jhp 3.9g titegroup 1.120 OAL PF ~130 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphamikefoxtrot Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 (edited) I am going to say this twice due to the importance of it : pick a load and shoot the crap out of it. Once you get used to one load, all others will feel worse. I think that there is a natural progression in the shooting/reloading sports. When you first start out, you will try and find the lightest recoiling load. You will shoot that for years and then try someone else's loads/gun. You will decide that theirs is better and switch to that. You will eventually land on something that works and stick with it and get so used to it that you never try anything else. I personally started out with the big bullets going slow philosophy. I find myself moving to the small bullets going fast end of the spectrum. Since you are on the other end, and since a glock has a relatively light slide anyway I would recommend my old load of 147's and unique. I am a huge fan of n320 and wanted to standardize with that powder for everything but my open loads. I loaded 131 pf loads with n320 and unique and could honestly tell zero difference so I went with the cheaper and easier to locate unique. You should pick a combination and then quit researching it. The more you read about it the more you will keep trying to find the perfect load. Just like the perfect golf club, the perfect load will let you down as well. You will learn to shoot which ever load you shoot the most. Pick one and shoot the crap out of it. Edited November 30, 2012 by Alphamikefoxtrot Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
glockdude1 Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 That is very good advice....it does seem like everyone has their opinion and their opinion has 100% conviction with them... I haven't tried the 147gr bullets, so I will give them a try and then pick a load and powder and start sending them down the range.... I like your analogy with golf clubs...I am a hard-core golfer and I tell all my non-shooting friends that shooting is just as frustrating as golf because one day you shoot like crap and you don't know why...same with a bad day at the golf course.. Thank you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob DuBois Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I'm a fan of the heavier bullets and have some time springing or tuning my Trojan to them. Don't just go by feel take a friend to the range with a timer some varied ammo weights and check splits to find the set up that works best for you. What works for me might not be the setup for you but some time with a timer and checking spring weights and bullet weights will improve your score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ultimo-Hombre Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I use a 34 for steel. 4.0 of titegroup behind a 124 gn plated. Accurate, good shooting and economical. KCCO! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billdncn Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 4.3gr 231 under Berry's 124gr HP. Gen4 G17 never Cronoed. Works good for me. Good luck Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
landry92 Posted December 3, 2012 Share Posted December 3, 2012 Berrys 124 gr bullets 3.6 gr of titegroup Never had any problems and works great in my G34 I use for steel shoots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dlp40cal Posted December 4, 2012 Share Posted December 4, 2012 124 clays 4.0 at 1.145 shoot soft Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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