lef-t Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 So I know that you could paint a popper any single color you want, but do all the poppers on a stage have to be the same color? For example could there be a set of 3 poppers, one red, one white, and one blue? I'm thinking of getting festive for the 4th. Here's the rule. It seems open to a little interpretation. As long as each target is a single color I can't see anything wrong with it. 4.1.2.2 The entire front of scoring metal targets must be painted a single color, preferably white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
remoandiris Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 As long as each target is a single color I can't see anything wrong with it. That is how I read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SuperD Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I would agree each target has to be a sold color. The rule states they prefer white, it is not a requirement. Go for it and make one each of red, white and blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bikerburgess Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I would say its legal per the rules, and for the 4th of July even if it was not legal, I bet nobody would complain. Mike Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sdm74 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Could even make it difficut, in COF put they have to shoot red,white blue..lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
triplesinglestack Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I have done something similar in the past, and the only complaint I got was from the open shooters saying very difficult to find the dot on the red poppers, I was shooting open also, and had no problems, but I can see how the time of day and factor the sunglare might oppose a challenge, but I say go for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steel1212 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 I have done something similar in the past, and the only complaint I got was from the open shooters saying very difficult to find the dot on the red poppers, I was shooting open also, and had no problems, but I can see how the time of day and factor the sunglare might oppose a challenge, but I say go for it. oooooh that gives me an idea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fowlh339 Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 Dont know about the oficial rules but I shot a match at West Point earlier this year that had a Wirly-Gig and each plate was painted a different color. The last plate you shot became your color. You then moved to a different box with 20 steel plates representing 4 of each of the five colors on the wirly-gig. you had to shoot all but your color. Lots of fun on that stage. Dont know if this helps but would be a fun stage to reproduce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DonovanM Posted June 14, 2012 Share Posted June 14, 2012 oooooh that gives me an idea Haha, paint all the poppers red! Dont know about the oficial rules but I shot a match at West Point earlier this year that had a Wirly-Gig and each plate was painted a different color. The last plate you shot became your color. You then moved to a different box with 20 steel plates representing 4 of each of the five colors on the wirly-gig. you had to shoot all but your color. Lots of fun on that stage. Dont know if this helps but would be a fun stage to reproduce. That does sound like an awesome stage! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPatterson Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Dont know about the oficial rules but I shot a match at West Point earlier this year that had a Wirly-Gig and each plate was painted a different color. The last plate you shot became your color. You then moved to a different box with 20 steel plates representing 4 of each of the five colors on the wirly-gig. you had to shoot all but your color. Lots of fun on that stage. Dont know if this helps but would be a fun stage to reproduce. I would not have shot the stage as I consider it an illegal stage as it violates 1.1.5 and 1.1.5.1. I am not color blind but after reading some color charts I think this would constitute an unfair disadvange to a color blind shooter. Rule 1.1.5.1 is not a blanket authority for a Level I match director to do anything they please Stage designers need to stop the gimmicky crap and start designing shooting challenges. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fowlh339 Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 Thats unfortunate because it was an awesome stage you would have missed out on. Keep in mind that this was put on by West Point Combat team at a charity event. There drills are designed to test your shooting skills as well as your mental skills. Every stage had a twist that made you either remember a color or perform a task. What I left out was that that same stage started out by you throwing a training grenade into a large square on the ground then crawling through a barbed wire tunnel before ever even getting to the first shooting box. Another stage required you to wear a 25lb pack and run with two full 5 gallon water jugs before engaging targets from 100-425 yards...oh yeah that stage started with you shooting an m249 Saw in full auto. With that it would have been your choice to sit out that stage. Sorry for hijacking your thread lef-t. was just trying to give you ideas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Norman Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 LeRoy, the match at West Point is not a USPSA match. It is essentially an outlaw multi or 3-gun match. Having to remember which target is the one you don't shoot on the fly is a shooting challenge. Actually this is maybe the one place that I think IDPA has it over USPSA/IPSC, they use all the same color targets with the non-threat or penalty targets being marked with a visual indicator. In USPSA/IPSC we just strive not to shoot the white targets. Having to make snap recognition of targets is a skill that has its place in our sport. My opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPatterson Posted June 15, 2012 Share Posted June 15, 2012 LeRoy, the match at West Point is not a USPSA match. It is essentially an outlaw multi or 3-gun match. Having to remember which target is the one you don't shoot on the fly is a shooting challenge. Actually this is maybe the one place that I think IDPA has it over USPSA/IPSC, they use all the same color targets with the non-threat or penalty targets being marked with a visual indicator. In USPSA/IPSC we just strive not to shoot the white targets. Having to make snap recognition of targets is a skill that has its place in our sport. My opinion. Thats unfortunate because it was an awesome stage you would have missed out on. Keep in mind that this was put on by West Point Combat team at a charity event. There drills are designed to test your shooting skills as well as your mental skills. Every stage had a twist that made you either remember a color or perform a task. What I left out was that that same stage started out by you throwing a training grenade into a large square on the ground then crawling through a barbed wire tunnel before ever even getting to the first shooting box. Another stage required you to wear a 25lb pack and run with two full 5 gallon water jugs before engaging targets from 100-425 yards...oh yeah that stage started with you shooting an m249 Saw in full auto. With that it would have been your choice to sit out that stage. Sorry, I did not consider the concept that it might not be a USPSA match since it was in the USPSA rule forum. My bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Braxton1 Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 (edited) A few years ago (late 80s/early 90's), red primer became the popular paint to use on steel because you got absolute coverage with minimum paint. Just a quick spray returned the popper to as-new, as opposed to white that won't cover anything. When dots became popular, that went away. The Open guys just couldn't see their dots against 'em.... (Let's all give a collective, "Awwwwwwww........Darn!") Edited June 24, 2012 by Braxton1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BritinUSA Posted June 24, 2012 Share Posted June 24, 2012 Grey primer would work just as well, I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNsTeR Posted June 28, 2012 Share Posted June 28, 2012 (edited) I've never had trouble seeing my dot against red-painted steel. That C-More dial goes to 11 for a reason! Plain black iron sights against black-painted steel on the other hand... Edited June 28, 2012 by MoNsTeR Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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