Beladran Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 anyone got some good data using HBWC that will make minor pf? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anachronism Posted July 4, 2011 Share Posted July 4, 2011 It could be tough running speedloaders with wadcutters. Regardless, I'd recommend using solid wadcutters instead of hollowbase. The skirts on hollowbase wadcutters can separate if you push them too hard, potentially leaving you with a bore restriction, something you do not need whilst speed shooting. Hollowbase wadcutters really shine at bullseye shooting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom E Posted July 5, 2011 Share Posted July 5, 2011 (edited) Whose minor power factor? I use 148 Remington HBWC with a Fed 100 and 2.8 gr solo 1000. 730 fps, 108 PF, 6" model 14 and ridiculously good accuracy. Seated flush with a roll crimp they really don't load too bad with speedloaders (not like RN's though) if the chambers are chamfered. I'm not sure how fast you can run them before the heads start to separate. 158 RN's reload better: http://www.missouribullet.com/details.php?prodId=76&category=5&secondary=9&keywords= 3.5 Solo 1000, 127 PF, 791 fps 6" model 14. 112 PF 706 fps, 2 1/2" model 66. Edited July 6, 2011 by Tom E Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Service Desk Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 (edited) anyone got some good data using HBWC that will make minor pf? Seat them in upside down - so they look like a whopper sized hollow-point and the bases won't get blown off. 3.4 to 3.5 grains of Winchester WST should get them about the 850 fps mark. Accuracy should be OK out to 20 yards. YMMV Edited July 6, 2011 by Service Desk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
superdude Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 anyone got some good data using HBWC that will make minor pf? Seat them in upside down - so they look like a whopper sized hollow-point and the bases won't get blown off. 3.4 to 3.5 grains of Winchester WST should get them about the 850 fps mark. Accuracy should be OK out to 20 yards. YMMV accuracy sucks when loaded this way. i have evidence of them tumbling within as little as 7 yards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom E Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 anyone got some good data using HBWC that will make minor pf? Seat them in upside down - so they look like a whopper sized hollow-point and the bases won't get blown off. 3.4 to 3.5 grains of Winchester WST should get them about the 850 fps mark. Accuracy should be OK out to 20 yards. YMMV accuracy sucks when loaded this way. i have evidence of them tumbling within as little as 7 yards. You may have overloaded them. When you seat them "upside down" you have very little effective case volume. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
21 shooter Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 You might try WW 231 powder. I have never pushed a HBWC that fast, usually going for accuracy over speed. I will have to check my notes to see what velocity I was getting with mine. Bullet instability and leading will be your problems. If you were running a good cast wadcutter you should be able to make the power factor easily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob DuBois Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 Check Handloads.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anachronism Posted July 6, 2011 Share Posted July 6, 2011 I always thought a wadcutter with a round nose would be a good thing for speedshooters. It would allow a shorter overall length, especially if weight is held to about 125 grains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beladran Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 I would like to shoot this at 130pf but i dont know if the skirt will start blowing apart.. i know most hb bullets are ment to be slow bullseye rounds. just wondering what their limit would be Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I've got some that are close, id have to chrono them again. The leading is not worth it. Its a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DWFAN Posted July 7, 2011 Share Posted July 7, 2011 I've got some that are close, id have to chrono them again. The leading is not worth it. Its a mess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beladran Posted July 7, 2011 Author Share Posted July 7, 2011 Figures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevenue Posted July 10, 2011 Share Posted July 10, 2011 Getting 97PF with 2.6 of Bullseye from a 1 7/8 barrel. Not even close Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beladran Posted July 11, 2011 Author Share Posted July 11, 2011 1 7/8 barrel?? lol how accurate is that load? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
anachronism Posted July 11, 2011 Share Posted July 11, 2011 I believe you should be able to improve lubrication by tumble-lubing your factory bullets & maybe dusting them with mica. I take it you got a great deal on a boatload of wadcutters? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bevenue Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 1 7/8 barrel?? lol how accurate is that load? Honestly I have no clue. But just a guess, more accurate than I am with the short sight radius and the very heavy tigger. When I made them I was more interested in a softer recoil load. So that I could get some trigger time and not hurt my hand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooter57 Posted July 12, 2011 Share Posted July 12, 2011 What game are you shooting? I load DEWC with no problems reloading for PPC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beladran Posted July 13, 2011 Author Share Posted July 13, 2011 usually i shoot action pistol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Service Desk Posted July 14, 2011 Share Posted July 14, 2011 7 Shots at 25 yards RHS of PPC Barricade - 7 Shot S&W 686. Hornady 148 gn HBWC inverted with 3.4gns WST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beladran Posted July 14, 2011 Author Share Posted July 14, 2011 nice looking group Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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