Chuck D Posted July 10, 2001 Share Posted July 10, 2001 Informational only, what would be the best pistol choice for ssp division and why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Grube Posted July 10, 2001 Share Posted July 10, 2001 Para LDA limited. It is DAO but so sweet it is almost like cheating. Big mag opening with double stack easy to hit on those dumbass designed tac reloads. Enough weight to keep muzzle flip to a minimum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted July 10, 2001 Share Posted July 10, 2001 The gun you shoot the most that's legal in the division. It sounds smart-ass ---- but it's true. The guys that win the local matches regularly all shoot the same gun every match. For one guy that might be a Beretta, for another a Glock 19. Right out of the box I'm awfully partial to a Glock 34, it comes with a good trigger (O.K. Chriss, a good trigger for a glock) extended slide stop and mag release, and a long sight radius. Its doublestack mags slide home easily and its light weight makes it point and transition very easily for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ankeny Posted July 10, 2001 Share Posted July 10, 2001 Chuck: Around here the choice for SSP seems to be a Glock. Most often a G17, 19 or 22. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Grube Posted July 11, 2001 Share Posted July 11, 2001 Nik, That good glock trigger doesn't even come close! I used to shoot a 24 in open. This LDA is the shit. Helps that it is also my carry off duty. I just came up with a wimp load in .40 for IDPA and production. It is a 135 PF. The old one was my limited load at 174 PF. Shoots better than any 9. I'm waiting on the results from Sat. to see how it went. It is same POA POI as my 155 fed. HS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooter Posted July 11, 2001 Share Posted July 11, 2001 I was going to say a P7M13, but it just got bumped to ESP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 Chriss, I'm loading a 135gr Berries bullet out to 1.180aol with VV N320 powder. I'm getting a 130pf and the pressures are high enough not to leave any unburned powder in my LDA. Now if I could oly get the gun to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chriss Grube Posted August 8, 2001 Share Posted August 8, 2001 JT, I'm running a 140 lasercast with 4.5 grains of titegroup OAL of 1.175. Soft accurate and shoots to same point as my 155 Fed. HS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted August 11, 2001 Share Posted August 11, 2001 I've been very impressed with the Steyr M-series. Okay, the sights suck, but that's easily rectified. In .40 with full-power ammo the gun barely moves when you fire it, thanks to an extremely low bore axis and a wonderfully hand filling grip - much better than the rectangular, slab-sided Glock handle. I need to get one of these things in 9mm to write up for an article. I'll bet in Nine this would be about like firing a .22 target pistol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 I think the hottest set up is the Beretta Elite II , partially because thats what i shoot, but there are quite a few beretta shooters around here, and it seems as team beretta does very well in the SSP standings at the IDPA sanctioned events. another part of my reasoning is that with the right grip the beretta has zero muzzle flip, that doesn't give it much of an advantage over a para LDA but it does over most of its competition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted August 19, 2001 Share Posted August 19, 2001 Smoney, I shoot a Berretta 96(.40) and believe me it's got plenty of muzzle flip. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D Posted August 19, 2001 Author Share Posted August 19, 2001 After reading the replies to my question......I purchased a S&W 4006TSW in 40 caliber. Gun fits my hands very well, has good sights,trigger reset is VERY quick and I think the 4 inch barrel/slide combination allows a quick draw from a concealed position. It handles great and with Nosler's 135grain JHP bullet at say 1000 fps it should be soft enough to shoot rather quickly. It's off to the S&W Performance Center for a dehorn job, trigger job and a polish/blueprinting of the internal components and THEN it's off to the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted August 20, 2001 Share Posted August 20, 2001 Chuck, I got the Performance center 5906 and it's my favorite gun. I goes bang every time. With it's heavy weight it feels like shooting the .32acp when shooting a 147gr. 9mm loaded to a 130pf. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted August 20, 2001 Share Posted August 20, 2001 the 40 cal will definitley have a LOT of recoil. however the 9mm with a brigadier slide is just so easy to shoot there are pictures of rob haught, and ernst langdon from team beretta with the gun IN action sights pointed at the target. i don't have a standard beretta yet, but hope to acquire one soon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck D Posted August 21, 2001 Author Share Posted August 21, 2001 The 4006 I bought will be a "dual purpose" gun. I plan on using it in IDPA and in IPSC's Production Division. A downloaded 40 may recoil a little bit more than say a 9x19 in a Beretta but I feel the larger diameter bullet will be better on steel and I feel the difference between a 135g 40 caliber bullet at 1000 fps in a 40 and the same set-up in 9x19 will be minute. The Beretta is a GOOD gun but I'm not crazy about the aluminum frame. I wanted an all steel gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Thompson Posted August 21, 2001 Share Posted August 21, 2001 Chuck, the berretta frame is steel. I don't care for the triggers on berreta's they don't rest as fast as a tuned smith and out of the box their horrible. I checked out Ernest Langdon's gun at the 2000 Lim Nationals and if I could get the trigger on my Berreta like his I might consider shooting it more often. (Edited by John Thompson at 12:09 am on Aug. 21, 2001) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Moneypenny Posted August 21, 2001 Share Posted August 21, 2001 sorry, but beretta's frame is an alloy frame. John, an answer to your prayers. http://www.langdontactical.com he is in business for him self now, and does a SUPERB trigger job! complete with light double action pull, ( very smooth) a trigger weight to your liking, mine is about 4# since i carry it sometimes too, also the only over travel stop i have seen that won't damage the frame. he has lots of other part too, just email him, great guy to do business with! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulW Posted August 21, 2001 Share Posted August 21, 2001 The best gun, in my humble opinion would be one of the Para LDA's in 9mm. How could you ever go wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Venezuela Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 I shoot a Glock 23 (.40 S&W) loaded to a PF of 165. I´m into IDPA to get "real life practical experience" and not to win trophies and a Glock 23 is what I carry. I am not against winning a trophy but my goal is to shoot the gun I carry the best I can. Then again, since IDPA is a category competition I just might win a trophy as a novice using my Glock 23 instead of winning a trophy as a Marksman using a Glock 17. It´s a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tightloop Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 Any ful sized Glock in 9mm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 Another vote for the Para P18 9mm. It has worked for me for about 6k with no failures - other than the sights both falling off.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PistolJim Posted March 28, 2004 Share Posted March 28, 2004 G34 or 35. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yeahyeah Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Does anybody know who to get to do a trigger job on an LDA, possably sorten the reset? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas Moore Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 todd jarret will fine tune the internals but don't send the receiver. todd had a 1lb trigger on his production gun, which was an LDA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted March 29, 2004 Share Posted March 29, 2004 Does anybody know who to get to do a trigger job on an LDA, possably sorten the reset? Try jjanglin@msn.com. He does a lot of work on LDAs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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