feederic Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Today I was in the middle of shooting my first string on the second stage of the day when "poof!" smoke appears everywhere and my hands felt like a golf club hit them! I set the gun down and check that luckily all of my fingers are still intact. The gun is currently stuck in slide-lock, and you can see a ruptured case and a spot where a primer used to be. I haven't assessed the damage at all but the extractor is gone (MIA). I switched to my stock Glock barrel a month ago after coming to terms that it was ok to shoot lead through it. I spent about 300 rounds meticulously checking for leading, which had been extremely minor. I am using Missouri Bullet 170gr LSWC, 4.6gr Universal, Wolf SP Primers @ 1.15" OAL. On a side note, a shooter loaded and was ready. When he sat down in this stages starting position his gun got bumped out of the holster and I was staring straight down the muzzle when it landed! What a crazy day! And to top it off, the toilet started to leak when I came home today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
assaulter Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 That sucks. I had a G23 let loose once. It's pretty scary. I was lucky to find my extractor and it went back in. I also had to reassemble my magazine. Glad you're ok. Post pics! I'd also like to know if your barrel has lead in it. It may not have been the lead bullets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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feederic Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 I'll get some pics up today, and a video of the stage. My friend filming was thinking to himself "idiot, why'd you stop?!" after I asked him if my last shot sounded loud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted January 8, 2011 Share Posted January 8, 2011 Feederic has ammo for sale if y'all are interested. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feederic Posted January 8, 2011 Author Share Posted January 8, 2011 Actually, I have a "lightly-used" glock-35 for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harmon Posted January 9, 2011 Share Posted January 9, 2011 i had a case head let go on my glock 24. it wrecked the extractor, spring, spring loaded bearing and that rod that lives in there with all that other stuff. the load was pretty mundane. 4.3 grains TITEGROUP, Montana Gold 180 JHP at 1.135 oal. the piece of brass was winchester. i had a KKM barrel in the gun. the case failed in the extractor groove and aside from the obvious crack. no other indications of high pressure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feederic Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 I just finished wrestling with the gun tonight. The head of the case popped right off when I stuck a dowel in there to try and tap it out, it was completely ruptured. I ended up taking a flat blade screwdriver and a hammer and chiseling a small tang out that I could wrap some needle-nose pliers with. After it popped out I disassembled the gun. I was surprised but it looks like the only thing I need to replace is an extractor, everything else looked pretty good. I was EXTREMELY thankful for that melonite finish after accidental slips with the needle nose pliers . I will put my LWD barrel back in of course, and run that from now on. I do find it to be slightly less reliable but I guess that comes with the full headspace support that I need. I might even switch to FMJ after thinking about it for awhile to avoid lead exposure as much as possible. I popped the barrel out and sure enough the rifling was completely full of lead for about the first inch and a half! I had about 350 rounds down the pipe with minimal leading, and after cleaning I had almost 150 through it before this happened. I am completely shocked at how bad the leading was, and I am not to sure why it happened all of a sudden. The pictures make it out a little worse than it actually is but the leading is pretty severe. Here's the Video Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VARifleman Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 If you are concerned with lead exposure, why not use a CMJ or a JHP? Some of the lead burns off of the back of FMJ and produces more lead in the air than a lead bullet with gas check. Something to think about, glad you're ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feederic Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 I'll be ordering up some plated real soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dskinsler83 Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 It's not so much the leading as it was the case support...thus y I hve steered clear if loading 40 so far Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugnut Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 It's not so much the leading as it was the case support...thus y I hve steered clear if loading 40 so far Really??? Why are you so sure about that? Lead in a stock barrel in not a good idea at all. Leading in the barrel will cause excessive pressure and look what happened to this gentleman? Glock rifling is not condusive to shooting lead. There is plenty of support in a good case for running in a Glock. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lugnut Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I'll be ordering up some plated real soon. Good move. I use Berrys and never have to clean my stock barrels. Plus- those rounds you had were the smokiest loads I think I've ever seen. Glad you are ok. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VegasOPM Posted January 15, 2011 Share Posted January 15, 2011 I had a case head separation in my G22 a couple of years ago. The brass was at the end of its life and had been "Glocked" several times- so there was a noticeable belly before sizing. Add to that a fast powder and Major loading (in a 4" gun) and KABLOOEY! Same thing you felt, loud noise, numb hands and the extractor was missing in action. A replacement extractor and some borrowed factory ammo later and I was able to finish the match. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JayTray Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 i had a case head let go on my glock 24. it wrecked the extractor, spring, spring loaded bearing and that rod that lives in there with all that other stuff. the load was pretty mundane. 4.3 grains TITEGROUP, Montana Gold 180 JHP at 1.135 oal. the piece of brass was winchester. i had a KKM barrel in the gun. the case failed in the extractor groove and aside from the obvious crack. no other indications of high pressure. So.. Have you determined the cause? Cracked case I guess? thanks. JT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Punkin Chunker Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Actually, I have a "lightly-used" glock-35 for sale. I think the ad term for this situation is, "handyman's dream". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sig2009 Posted January 16, 2011 Share Posted January 16, 2011 Your case is one reason why I prefer an all metal gun over a plastic one. A little more protection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feederic Posted January 17, 2011 Author Share Posted January 17, 2011 Well it looks like all is not well with the gun. I was testing out my new DP Magwell and was wondering why my mags weren't dropping free. First step I removed the magwell, nothing. Next step inspected the new stipple job, everything looked great with it and the stippling didn't seem to be the problem. I found out the rubbing came up high in the frame, and low and behold there is a crack going from the mag release up to the trigger, and the crack profile happens to match a 1" bruise on my hand (which I guess now I know how I got). I'm not really a happy camper right now...and can't absorb the cost of a new rig on top of one being built so it looks like I'm out of the game for awhile. This is somewhat of a depressing way to start the year off. Oh well, taking some bruises and breaking some guns is common when trying to make it out there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueOvalBruin Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Glock might replace the frame for you for a fee, that's what I would try first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jman Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Your case is one reason why I prefer an all metal gun over a plastic one. A little more protection. I have personally witnessed three of these "cases". One in a Springer 1911 one in a STI 2011 and my own G35. I lost the slide stop lever. The other two were sent the local ER to have foreign material removed from their hands and several stitches. Could be anecdotal...I'm thinking not. Jim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlueOvalBruin Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Yup, the polymer frame is definitely an asset with those kinds of case failures. The glock barrel design is also ideal for catastrophic failures since the weakpoints are on the sides of the chamber. Blasts are directed out to the sides rather than down towards your hand. The 1911 barrel does not have a designed-in weakpoint so the point where the chamber splits can be random. Keep us posted on what glock says. Also, you shooting Pala this Sat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GForceLizard Posted January 17, 2011 Share Posted January 17, 2011 Thanks for your post feederic. Shows how fast a stock Glock barrel can lead up. I don't see how this proves anything other than Glock isn't kidding whey they tell you not to shoot lead bullets from their barrels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted January 18, 2011 Share Posted January 18, 2011 Call glock and send them your frame(less any custom parts as it comes back factory stock). I believe it is 45 bucks for a replacement when you send a messed up one in. Great deal even if its you that messed the frame up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
feederic Posted January 19, 2011 Author Share Posted January 19, 2011 I called glock this morning and they told me to ship it on in! I'm not sure if I will get a replacement under warranty or not, but the return directions had a price list and a replacement frame is $150. That is still MUCH cheaper than buying a new gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EkuJustice Posted January 19, 2011 Share Posted January 19, 2011 Last replacement I had was under 50 bucks. An upgrade ie gen 2 to 3 was quite a bit more. My guess is you will get out cheap, just remember to send the original parts with the gun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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