SRT Driver Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Few questions for the seasoned glocksters. Upgrading my G34 for production and am looking at springs etc. My concern is that changing springs might cause erratic trigger reset, feeding. Do the reduced striker springs work well? I've seen the stuff on Glockmeister website. Also, I'm thinking about going with an ISMI captured rod and 13lb ISMI spring. Any issues with this? USing 135 - 140 PF loads. Using the stock spring, 2nd shots are low which, in 1911 terms, means less spring is needed. I've worked a lot with tuning 1911's, but since Glocks are different, I want to make sure I'm going in the right direction. Also, if the spring is too light, what will be affected? The take down catch, locking block or ? Thanks!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BSeevers Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 I would recommend a Charlie Vanek trigger job. Closest to a 1911 trigger I have ever seen on any type gun. $200+ but 2 day turnaround and it will amaze you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matthew_Mink Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 You may end up 'tuning' that 13# ISMI spring by clipping a few coils off. That is a pretty good spring to start with. Buy several and start experimenting. The gun should cycle and feel real good at 135-140pf with a few coils cut off. And ditto on the Vanek trigger, of course. Send Charlie an email if you are interested in a dependable 1.5# (at least) smooth Glock trigger. All safeties function, and reset and overtravel are dramatically shortened. gunner5@cox-internet.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rtr Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 Another recommendation for the Vanek trigger, it simply is unmatched. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eerw Posted February 23, 2004 Share Posted February 23, 2004 My G34 has the cool trigger by Charlie...been great .. Has Dawson rear and FO front sight, ISMI 13 pound spring..think I clipped like three coils off and a steel guide rod.. All good so far... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT Driver Posted February 23, 2004 Author Share Posted February 23, 2004 Thanks everyone, I've heard good things about the Vanek trigger but I want to learn how this thing works. ( I dig this stuff anyway) A Vanek trigger might be in the works for the future. Maybe on a G35 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT Driver Posted February 23, 2004 Author Share Posted February 23, 2004 Another thing. Do you check the spring length on a Glock like a 1911? Spring out, guide rod in, pull slide back to full travel and mark guide rod? Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Do the reduced striker springs work well? I've seen the stuff on Glockmeister website. My Glock 34 with "3.5-pound connector" went 5-3/4 pounds out of the box. Installing a Wolff "4-pound" striker spring dropped that to 3-3/4 pounds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Also, if the spring is too light, what will be affected? The take down catch, locking block or ? The takedown latch has its own separate spring. The locking block is held in place with a crosspin. Neither of these is affected by changing recoil or striker springs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eric nielsen Posted February 24, 2004 Share Posted February 24, 2004 Please, spend $0.00 on springs for your Glock trigger. Spend $175.00 plus return shipping and send your gun to Charlie Vanek. You will not regret the investment. Certainly won't regret the saved time & aggrevation. If you could afford a Lexus, would you drive a Kia? The difference is that big. "2nd shots are low" just means you are timing your recoil response for a different spring than what you changed to. See Matt Burkett's website & dvd's. Having said that, 13lb recoil spring is most likely all you need or too much - for reliable functioning. If you seat your primers really well, the 4lb striker spring will light off WSR primers. If you really mess up seating, even FSP primers will fail now & then. I've had no misfires on any gun since going to tumbling - sizing - 1shot lube the primer pockets - load. Extra effort, but gun goes bang every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SRT Driver Posted February 25, 2004 Author Share Posted February 25, 2004 Thanks for the feedback everyone. Have not shot production in two years so I'll see if I can live with minor. Then I'll send it to Charlie. Picked up the Wolff Reduced striker spring, some ISMI 13 lb springs and a SS Guide rod. Did some stoning and polishing and now the pull is down to 2.75 lbs which is a huge improvement. Still has a lot of take up but I've been spoiled by a 1 lb 9 oz Open gun!! The 13 lb spring is the same length as the stock spring so it was left alone, for now. Thanks again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
twix Posted February 26, 2004 Share Posted February 26, 2004 I haven't tried the Vanek trigger, and I know a lot of folks here are very happy with them. I have a CGR Top Fuel trigger, it's been great and totally relliable for around 10,000 rounds. I think he has reduced his pricing as well to $125. The pull is a smooth 2.5 lbs, crisp reset. No titanium. The tungsten guide rod CGR sells also makes a difference (adds about 2oz to front of muzzle). If you reload you can acheive some really soft loads but you will need lighter recoil springs. Probably 13#. Change the sights first. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ryucasta Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 I have purchased just about all the triggers that are currently offered for Glocks (DMW(1), Novak(1), CGR(2) and Vanek(4)) and I have found the Vanek trigger to be by far the best one on the market today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skeeter Posted February 27, 2004 Share Posted February 27, 2004 don't waste your money on a trigger till you've shot 10,000 rounds thru your gun. then you'll know what you want in a tigger and be able to use it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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