woodyblueballs

I bought my first and last pound at the recommendation of an old timer using is for 357 or 38. I can't tell you measurably, but in my custom glock 35 the powder is too poppy. Meaning I get the feeling of high pressure. Never any case damage nor primer issues. This is probably my first instance of being a princess with a firearm. Powder metered well. SD were low. Runs fine low and slow. Runs fine pushing it a bit. Regardless of the load it was too poppy.

I just immediately installed a fully supported barrel from lone wolf Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

Some like or swear by bullseye, but not me. I have it for my practice rounds using 135 and 165gr pills. To me Bullseye is too pressure happy, and feel a sharp recoil with it. 4.5grs with 135 and 165 pills is what I use for soft shooting (may not cycle a new custom gun). 5.5grs of Bullseye works too and is my normal reload for high quantity. With powder still not available, I horde may good powder that I really really spent a lot of time on. If titwad is like power pistol, then you might want to spend the time working up a competition load with it. One thing I will say is that you need to break in your gun. After 200-500 rounds, you can start working loads specific to your slide, barrel and recoil spring. Cheers Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

This is abrand new build. Carrier and pin are good to go. Though I went cheap because Brownell has my piston kit on backorder. Carrier is phosphate rather than NiB. Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

Primers were CCI small rifle. Eventually just took the plunge and replaced trigger. The two stage Delton just didn't work out. After putting in a hiperfire 243g trigger the problem was readily apparent. The Delton was loose again the safety as compared to the hiperfire. The hiperfire has no give with the safety on. As a side note suddenly the groups are sub MOA...go figure. Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

All primers are gone...mixed up on the ground any way. All primers inspected day off were "average". Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

Second try at posting. Slams Fire (dropping THE bolt) When the safety is off. Will look at disconnector function more closely. She's 15YO and handles my 308 and 40's proficiently...not 9. These were 3-4 round loaded mags. And we were able to get 6 rounds without issue. 2x: while shooting. She Is Lazy with shouldering THE GUN So Could Be A SPOOKING issue. Gun never failed for me...yes I took over, function check, disassemble and checked, test fired. Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

After some post mortem thinking I'm concerned about the slam fires and 2x fires we experienced. I glad my daughter and I took training time serious over the last two summers. Practice MAKES PERFECT 1] finger placement: not on trigger unless shooting 2] ALWAYS POINT THE GUN IN A SAFE DIRECTION. 3] allow safe mistakes while shooting, trying to fire on an empty mag is a good opportunity for them to practice clearing the gun/malfunction. 65 grendel 20" stoner barrel, seekins upper, area 53 lower... Cheap M16 carrier, Brownell firing pin, hornady 123 factory ammo, carbine spring/buffer, ar stoner barrel/bolt. Awaiting Brownell adjustable piston with NiB carrier. Trigger is del-ton two stage. Also magpul 223 10rd mags which operated flawlessly. Sadly the 65grendel 25rd mags chewed up and didn't let go (ftf) of rounds. Slam fire: About the only thing on the net is make sure the firing pin has free travel. Well it did and still does. We had 3-4 slam fires during the 40 shot session. > I'll try to replace the firing pin with a vdl coated one I just got in for another rifle >???? 2x: had about six of these >I do have an adjustable gas block so I'll turn the gas down > not sure it's not my daughters' happy bouncing finger, but it'll take a few dozen rounds of me shooting it to determine. Any help or vectors appreciated. Sent from my SM-N900V using Tapatalk

Same thing happened to me in 40 cal reloads. The brass is being shoved too violently into the chamber. The transition between feed ramp and chamber bites into the brass creating a thin area.. for me I had to slow down the slide with less pressure andg or limit to use for old brass. Check your other cases to see if there is a bite mark.

Can I get a longer COAL in them???

It seems that moving is big part of 3-gun, thus if you have a light barrel and a good comp you'll be able to get on target quicker. The trade off is the longer shots...I don't know the accuracy or twist of your barrels. What I'd concentrate (in terms of time and money) on is practice, trigger, and shifting optics (iron, red dot, 3xscope, ~14x scope) from near-far targets. But what do I know?

Budget is 20-40 bucks of AMMO a week. Membership helps with range costs. Seems like everything revolves around lack of trigger reset and muzzle rise.

21sf 45acp brass 6.61" barrel 230 127 9gr 1168 1200 1173. 1180 1196 1196 1237 1218 1187 single shot not loading well 1080 1176. 1323 (moved meter back) 230gr berry 671 9.7gr longshot 1.27 1236 1220 G23 165gr 5 gr longshot. 1.12 Can't hit shit .. soft shooting though and cycled cold...finally G35 6.6" barrel same as above 1712? 700 882.2 853.4. 870.1 908.7 868.9. G35 6.61" barrel 165gr 7gr longshot 1123 1189 1188 1140 1255 180gr berry fn fmj 4 gr longshot 1.15" 1053 1147 1083 . 165gr fn fmj 1.13-1.17" OAL 5gr longshot 796 6 806.3. 872.2 893 .8 760.5. Magazine just won't cycle the longer rounds 165gr 1.17+ 4.5gr longshot 528.2. 850.2 battery died

Warning newbie...love it. I use as all 40, 45 and 45 loads. now I'm hoarding it as it my best powder. I've got Bullseye and longshot for practice.

This is the data reduction so far. Data at 180gr bullets with long shot deserves repeating. Temp was about 50 degrees. Glock g35 40sw 5.85"LWD barrel freedom 40SW reman 180gr, 980 fps (14fps std dev) 180gr fn-fmj, 4.6gr longshot, 1.1" OAL, 805 fps (52 fps std dev) 180gr fn-fmj, 4gr longshot, 1.15" OAL, 1070 fps (22fps std dev) 165gr fn-fmj, 5gr long shot, 1.13-1.17 OAL, 802 fps (37 fps std Dev) 165gr fn-fml 4.5gr longshot, 1.05" OAL, 786 fps (54fps std dev) 165gr fn-fmj, 5gr BullsEye, 1.1" OAL, 1095 fps (34fps std dev) Glock 21SF 45ACP LWD 6.61" threaded barrel with Comp 185gr berry plated hollow back, 10gr power pistol, 1226 fps 230gr lead bullet, 8.5gr LongShot, 1.21" OAL, 1151fps

Maybe I know too much but I was crying and sweating the whole movie. Reminds me much of the pre-soviet wall propaganda. Having had Korean friends it's still funny.

For those trying to understand a polymer frame and this load consider this; the force and energy acting on the bullet is in balance with the much much heavier heavier slide. in both cases the load path is the barrel. The barrel has a hook that holds the polymer frame...when in balance. There are no loads going through the frame...when in balance. A heavier recoil spring (15 lb/in to 25 lb/in), much heavier slide, heavier barrel, compensator and losing half of each lot of 460R brass helps with balance. If anything I was trying to get to an over gas state to take advantage of the comp more.

Again thanks for the inputs It seems 14 gr of PP is going to be what it is for the Rowland cartridge; and Im sticking 10 grs for 45ACP with berry 185gr bullets. I realize most people lookout for the flippant, but its not the case. Dangerous is going to a foreign where no uniform or prayer will keep you safe. Its only if an IED is meant for you or not. Loading ammo and watching for signs/indications of over pressure a every change is far less dangerous especially if done with wisdom and full control over parameters. TerryYu thanks for posting some new information. Granted there are attacks here, but if anyone else is willing to post 460R loads experience I'd be grateful. The 460R is a different animal than the 45ACP.

I spent $1200 on a custom up super duper G24 40sw, 6" barrel, aftermarket this and that. I shot both it and my holdover g35 Frankenstein stock barrel/sights. The $1200 glock went 1 for 6 & 2 o f13; the G35 (700 rnds) with was 6 of 6/13 of 13...

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I've been dangerous all my life. I'm using a Lyman turret setup with RCBS dies. I've learned to "process" 100 at a time-fully one step at a time after. Size/decapp/sonic clean, Expander (460R cases need more belling than shorter 45ACP), measure each load with scale, seat bullet to height. The biggest challenge is switching back and forth between 45 ACP cases and the 460R. The 1/16th of an inch changes many of the settings just enough. As far as the two stuck bullets, that was a crimp failure...given the 23 lb spring, the bullet was knocked forward. Interestingly it was thud sound vice anything puff like. I think what people missed is that my work up went from 8grs to 14grs in 0.5 - steps and various OALs to allow me to access the risk of the next step. Unfortunately, its the shock wave is really killing the chrono reliability (I keep forgetting) the supersonic shockwave. I probably need to move the chrono back another 5 feet. I spent the last bit of the XTP ammo working on recoil handling of the round/gun; which is the range favorite so far.

watching this intently. website indicates a sportsman 200 option mid 2013.

Thanks for the note but the load is for 460 Rowland (supported barrel, better/stronger casing). still working up to "planned 14.5 grs of PP. The OAL is all over the place because I'm still learning and don't mind being honest about what to expect from my loads. So today was another learning day. Load of interest is 13.9-14.0 gr of Power Pistol, 185gr H. XTP, Starline 460R cases, CCI LP primers, OAL 1.285-1.270". -> FPS... I have no idea. went 0 for 22 rounds for getting any measurement. 45ACP/Al case went 851,891,901, 888,... 40S&W (6.61+LWD compensator) white box 1125-1140 FPS. There is such a small window for a measurement with my device. ERR2 (no back sensor trip) with every 460R shot. -> Case condition...one of the reasons I felt comfortable pushing forward was that no case impacts were seen with anything below 13.5grs with various OALs. However, about 1/3 off this lot (including twice fired Starline brass) had a slight (0.480 nominal) .482 bulge. So this is where I'll stop here and will back it down to 13.8 until I get a better fps measurements. -> Safety...I pushing because I trust my measurements and calcs, but largely it is cool weather and each shot is monitored for over-pressure. -> Functionality; Actually the round is not functional. The OAL (too long) causes jams in the metal lined magazines. I could only get 2-4 rounds per mag.

Overall impressions Wish I knew some things up front. First, a starline brass 45 acp super with the power pistol could saved me the conversion to 460 Roland. Once I read the reloading data on 460R rounds, keeping OAL the same as a 45ACP negates a longer brass. Second, I need to be more consistent with loading the charge and crimping. Even though the scale read accurately, the FPS tells me differently. Third, I hit my 1500 fps muzzle velocity goal and found the bottom charge point. - need a consistent 6.8-7.2 (185gr bullet) charge for major power factor - 5.5 to 6.25 grs is a nice soft shooting set up - the 10x more expensive XTP jacketed is 10% faster than the berry hollow base plated bullets - 1500 fps achievable with 45 acp brass (full supported chamber of lonewolf barrel) - Muzzle Energy(ft-lbs) = 998.51 - 13grs of PP is where I found 1500 fps with both Horny XTP and Berry HB - a chrono that reads 5 of 10 OR 1 of 10 isn't fun - favorite reloading combo is the berry hollow base in 460R and 45ACP facts: Gun-45ACP 21SF with lonewolf 6.61 Threaded barrel reamed for 460R powder : Power Pistol ... this all I could get bullets: Berry hollow base 185gr, .595" length Hornady XTP 185 gr, .545" length Actual data 40 S&W 180gr freedom ammo / G35 stock barrel / 1104 1088 1105 1105 40 S&W 180gr freedom ammo / G24 6.61” with compensator / 1083 1084 1184 1042 1175 [baseline] 45 ACP federal 230gr aluminum casing / G21L 6.61” / 905.7 937.5 917.6 906.6 1092 961.4 45 ACP berry 185gr hollow back copper plated / 6gr power pistol / 1565 860.2 805.3 45 ACP berry 185gr / 7gr power pistol / 1591 809.2 1343 889 904 820 927.8 939.6 968.0 45 ACP berry 185gr / 9gr power pistol / two stuck bullets in LW barrel, 1077, 1077, 1580, 1684 45 ACP berry 185gr hollow back / 13 gr power pistol/ blew the timer apart…no data 45 ACP berry 185gr hornady XTP hollow point / fun to shoot…no data Day 2 changed from 15 lb/in to 24 lb/in recoil spring [baseline] 45 ACP, FED 230gr, Al case / G21L 6.61” / 847.2, 869.2, 857, 846, 846 45 ACP case Berry-185gr – 5.0 grs ~1.2” OAL/ Won’t cycle with 24 lb-in recoil, spent case flip into chamber backwards / 548.6, 585, 643, 479, 400, 612, 840 45 ACP case-Berry 185gr hollow base/ G21L 6.61” / 9.0 gr – 1.21OAL ish / 1091, 1156, 1149, 2155 (lie), 1132, 994, 1103, 1018, 1146 45 ACP case-Horn XTP 185gr/ G21L 6.61” / 9.0gr -/ 1203, 1222, 1158 1236, 1227, 1232, 1287, 1124 460R case XTP 185 / 13gr / 1.21” OAL too damn short / 1512, 1510, 1542 460R case Berry 185gr / 13grs /1.21 and one 1.29 OAL / 1555, 1523, 1525 45 ACP case Berry 185 grs / 10 grs / 1.23” OAL / 1264 1161 1342 460R case XTP / 13 grs / 1.15 OAL way too low / 1529…these shot off without a problem 45 ACP case XTP / 13 grs / 1.13” OAL = 946.6(It lied), 1.17-1.24 OAL=no data, 1.24” OAL-1423 …good feel but I know the used 45 ACP case has its limits