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Your problem is definitely the over travel screw in your lone wolf trigger housing. If you back out the screw ¼ to ½ of a turn it should work fine again. After you have it working take your calipers, and measure the distance of the over travel screw. Then screw it out, put a drop of blue loctite in the hole, and replace the screw to the measured distance.

I think this would be ok as long as the gun was on safe when he let go of it. If it was not then it should still be a DQ because of 10.5.3.4, I think....

I don't think that there is a rule for that one in the rule book but Perry Wilson gave us the low down. As an RO when someone has a gun problem and is trying to clear it you do not tell them "stop." If you stop them and there is no gun problem they will get a reshoot. Perry even said that some evil gamers would act like they had a gun problem, trying to provoke the RO into saying "stop" because they know it meant a reshoot for a bad stage. Perry said that you ask the shooter if they can continue. If they say that they cannot continue then you confirm, "you cannot continue?" If they confirm again then you can help clear the gun and get it holstered or bagged and then declare the range clear. After confirming that the shooter cannot continue I would say that the course is over. If the RO drops the gun then I would suppose he, or another RO would pick it up an clear it as usual.

The only time an RO would be able to take the gun is if the shooter can not continue and the RO ends the CoF. The shooter would not be able to continue shooting the course after the RO helped clear the gun. That being said, I have helped new shooters clear death jams while ROing and then returned the gun to them to finish the course of fire but it is totally outside the rules.

I guess you could argue that you placed it on the ground if you were close to the ground and if it was in the ready condition (safty on for 1911) 10.5.3 If at any time during the course of fire, or while loading, reloading or unloading, a competitor drops his firearm or causes it to fall, loaded or not. Note that a competitor who, for any reason during a course of fire, safely and intentionally places the firearm on the ground or other stable object will not be disqualified provided: 10.5.3.1 The competitor maintains constant physical contact with the handgun, until it is placed firmly and securely on the ground or another stable object, and 10.5.3.2 The competitor remains within 1 meter (3.28 feet) of the handgun at all times, and 10.5.3.3 The provisions of Rule 10.5.2 do not occur, and 10.5.3.4 The handgun is in the ready condition as specified in Section 8.1, or 10.5.3.5 A self-loading pistol has the magazine removed and the slide locked open, or 10.5.3.6 A revolver has the cylinder open and empty.

harmongreer I don’t know about the stance but I have an idea what the problem was. It looks like you hit the first popper right off, and really fast. This gave you confidence that you could hit all of the other big poppers without much effort. Obviously, the focus of this stage was the texas star and you wanted to get to the star as fast as possible and in doing so you just didn’t stop to put a good hit on each popper. I catch myself doing this all of the time because my mind tells me, “it’s such an easy shot that you can’t miss” and I end up missing because I don’t see my sights or control the trigger correctly. I just start shooting at the steel instead of shooting the steal.

Actually the course of fire ends once the competitor has holstered the gun and taken his or her hand off of the gun (after the "if clear...") 8.3.7.3 If the gun proves to be clear, the competitor must holster his handgun. Once the competitor’s hands are clear of the holstered handgun, the course of fire is deemed to have ended. This means that if you are reholstering your gun after the cof and the gun falls once you take your hand off of it, it is not a match DQ. The gun should then be trated like a dropped gun and you need to get the RO to assist you in retreaving the gun. The "Range is clear" command is just the siglan that it is ok to go down range to score and tape. 8.3.8 “Range Is Clear” – Competitors or Range Officials must not move forward of, or away from, the firing line or final shooting location until this declaration is given by the Range Officer. Once the declaration is made, officials and competitors may move forward to score, patch, reset targets etc.

This is starting to sound like horse racing...

I really doubt that you would be allowed to use a secondary light source in the dark house but you can get away with using the provided light in creative ways. Maybe you could rig up a hat to accept the provided light.

Sorry Erik, I guess I am being negative about the whole thing. I guess my point is that it won't work if the Pro class are the only ones funding the Pro class. I don't have a better solution to the problem though so I will just stay out of this one now.

H.R.T. makes it the Hostage Rescue watch right? Gotta have one of dose!

If something will be there that I don't normally do like odd shooting positions or 50 yard + shots I will go practice that. Setting up a stage that will be shot at a major match usually won’t help because it wont look the same once you get there. I have heard of people grand-bagging by practicing the to-be-shot classifiers before a match but we frown on that here.

I say stick with the 40 round limits per gun. That is plenty on a Rife course with long shots on steel. I really dislike anything that approaches 30 rounds with a shotgun. It just gets ridiculous and the stages become more about finding places to shove extra ammo than shooting. I also really like the prestaging area where you could potentially have someone make ready with all 3 guns before they come to the line. This should do a lot to help hurry these matches up. Thanks Bruce!

Charging the best shooters more so that you can have something to give them doesn't sound like a good idea to me. Who wants to spend an extra $100 on a match? For me it means that I would never want to get close to the "pro" class because know I will never be the one winning the major matches. I would just be donating my extra entry fee to the first place shooter. Let's not try to separate ourselves into classes so much. For me, first place "C" class at nationals really means that that person should have been an "A" or "B" class shooter. The people who we should be chasing are the best shooters in the game, and not just the other shooters who share our classification. Having a Pro class seems like a good way to justify loosing to someone who is a better shooter with the excuse that he is a Pro and I am not. I can't see how anyone could make any kind of profit on USPSA shooting, no matter how many major matches they win. Prize tables are a nice bonus and all but if you are in the sport for the money, you are in the wrong sport.

Why have a pro class? That is what the GM class is for. The people who are usually the ones who have invested the most time and energy into perfecting their game, why shoulden't they have some of the rewards that come with that.

3 Seconds is really a really good run on a Texas Star. I like the method where you start high and let the plates come to you. Here is a run on a hoser stage with a texas star shooting production division. http://www.utahshooters.org/graphics/stage5.wmv

There is really no reason to change Production Division. The 10 round limit really helps make most production guns competetive. Lets not make it an arms race.

I could not figure out a better way to carry the ball than sticking it in my mouth until Saturday when it was already too late for me. Mark Waki and I drove over to that stage and everyone was sticking it in his partially zipped jacket. It was so obvious that I could not believe that I didn't think of that before I shot. Steven, I am glad that I could help you out. I really have a lot of respect for anyone who is willing to shoot all 11 stages in one day and then come back to run shooters for the next 3 days straight. I was sore after just one evening of running shooters, forget running shooters three days straight. Thanks again to everyone who worked hard to make it happen!

Any time Chuck! Congratulations on winning Production Division. I will have to build up my confidence on the white and black laced targets and I will see if I can give you a run for your money next time. This was really a great match. Count me in anytime they host a major match here.

18 seem to be the minimum to be rally competitive. A lot of times you see multiple arrays of 3 targets and with 18 rounds you can hit 3 arrays without a reload. 18 could also cover you for 9 shots from one position and 9 shots from another position. With 15 rounds you will have to squeeze an extra reload in for both of the above scenarios. Shooting with 15 will give you more flexibility over L10 and it will get you higher up in the combined division results but you will need more rounds to be ultra competitive in limited division.

I think I like the extra reloads too. It makes me feel good when I can finish the stage around the same HF as the limited shooters when I am shooting minor and doing 2 more reloads. I also like having to do more work to "game out" a stage. Most people don't realize what a challenge it can be to shoot certain stages with a ten round gun until they do it. Sounds like your club could use some more hard core production shooters. Heck, you could be the first. Once a few people start shooting the division regularly it will encourage others to dust off the DA/SA and Glocks and shoot production class.

You should not see a stage like this in a USPSA sanctioned match. All of the stages that I have seen that require a reload plus strong and week handed shooting have you go freestyle, then reload, then strong (or weak) hand. I think that after stipulating strong (or weak) hand only, a reload cannot be required because the other limb is suppose to be incapacitated.

Because of our location anyone who has wanted to go to nationals has been able to. Talk to the SC ASAP

All you need is a file. I don't remember the names of the oversized areas but one is the hood by the breachface and the other is the underside of the lug by where it locks up. Irve Sto of Barsto can fit the barrel if you want him to.

One modification that seems to be a gray area for production division would be dremeling the meg well a bit to aid in reloads. Is this a internal modification that would be legal for production? it depends on who you talk to. Does anyone have more information about this?