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Clays in 9mm is not a great powder to start out with for a new reloader. It is a very fast powder that some folks like Steve RA use with great success and other folks tend to shy away from in 9mm. I personally will only use Clays in pistol for 45 minor or 40 minor mouse fart loads, for 9mm the new Sport Pistol powder works very well as do stand by powders like titegroup and etc.

http://www.ballisticsbytheinch.com/40sw.html Was curious, usually fps specs are given based on a 4" barrel & most folks shoot with a 5". For 180 grain 40 the difference is only + - 35 fps , less than I expected, another 20 or so for 6" guns. Regardless, your actual power factor is probably going to be around 187 (180 * 1040). To me 170 pf feels enough different that I think it would be an advantage.

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Accuracy is always expensive, but we are not trying to detect a mouse fart at 30 yards. If the noise is good enough for the timers then it is good enough. A free approach might be to: 1. Pick the most common timer now in service at the majority of the clubs. 2. Specify sensitivity setting for the test. 3. Specify position of gun and timer for the test. 4. Fire 3 shots. As with chrono tests now, it would be better to have two timers when making the test.

I agree 100%. I run the timer for steel challenge matches on occasion. We usually have 1 timer set for 22 rifles or other very quiet guns and another set for the more audible guns, I'm not certain that this is entirely necessary but it works well, I think they started the practice because the 22 rifles gave them problems initially. In any case, when both you and the shooter are basically stationary then I do not see any issues.

Anybody sees something on techwell grips or Trip cobra mags, leads appreciated.

I do not even try to get all the shots during the stage if it is one of those guns that the timer has to be very close to, something happens and it is most likely going to be a reshoot, there is a recent thread on the topic & that seems to be a common practice. Figuring out where to meet the gun for the last shot when you can makes a lot of sense.

It is obvious that you do not have any experience running fast folks with quiet pccs through USPSA field courses. That is not meant as an insult. Troy acknowledges that it is indeed a problem in his article which I thought was a big step in the right direction. The two sports have similar but very different rules, you would not see rimfire shooters in USPSA for example.

And then call a reshoot if the last shot did not register because the gun was real quiet and you didn't have time or room to get back into the shooters underwear . If I was an honery person I'd design a pcc reshoot stage, just have the guy finish with a mad dash to his right, last two shots through a port, wall or other obstacle blocking the r.o. from getting around to get the timer near the gun. But I am too nice to even think about things like that. And again, only the mouse fart guns are a problem.

Being a contrary old fart, I imagine all of the Maw and Paw clubs having to buy and maintain all of that crap and the 2nd range official missing safety calls and procedurals because he has his nose stuck in an ipad . And then I imagine somebody with a very quiet gun tweaking to make it more quiet so we are back at square 1.

Spend an afternoon chasing fast shooters with very quiet guns & trying to focus on your primary job (safety & rules compliance) while making sure that you are watching the timer and almost literally on top of them (while trying not to distract them) for their last shot. Steel challenge it is not. 100% different than being in the best spot for observation and safety. Again, it is only a problem with the very quiet guns, most pcc shooters you can run like a pistol shooter.

Completely on the footprints or just touching?

Troy's column acknowledges that there are problems occasionally with reshoots & incorrect times due to some very quiet pcc's. And he recommends that we modify the sport (different timing equipment, different r.o. techniques) to accommodate the guns. Why would anybody even consider that? PCC's are only quiet enough to be a problem when the shooter chooses a gun/accessories/ammo combination that is a problem. Why wouldn't you just require the shooter to bring equipment that works with existing range equipment and procedures? Requiring the r.o. to live inside the shooters underwear is I guess the only thing I have a major issue with, I think it makes the r.o. less able to focus on safety. Verification of a minimum DB level should be cheap & easy. https://www.walmart.com/ip/HURRISE-Sound-Level-Meter-Portable-Digital-Decibel-Meter-Audio-Noise-Measurement-30-130dBA-MA-Noise-Measuring-Instrument-Sound-Decibel-Meter-Reader/708797953?wmlspartner=wlpa&selectedSellerId=15391&adid=22222222227255959194&wl0=&wl1=g&wl2=c&wl3=301997564151&wl4=pla-539636283089&wl5=9016656&wl6=&wl7=&wl8=&wl9=pla&wl10=118771473&wl11=online&wl12=708797953&wl13=&veh=sem&gclid=Cj0KCQiAxNnfBRDwARIsAJlH29BtyO0ZW2k_-ETfMwdeiDqcH3QvtuJQi7U_ESGX8V5b4cZEtWffEPgaApxnEALw_wcB

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If you pick up the 4K federal spp plus add as many match spp's as you want (a couple bucks per K more but still well priced) and powder if you need it, it works out pretty goodly. That was yesterday though.

"Recommendations are for long slides and are labeled accordingly," I've run across this before (6# OK for longslides), I haven't seen someone like Hennings say they are ok for standard slide length guns like the stock 2 though.

Agreed. But I think you could do more good for the trigger by getting the ideal ramp angle ,and maximizing double action travel, than just by shortening the bolo and getting the latter. Not important, just an errant notion of a tinkering junkie.

Hmm, the factory target ammo boxes I have on hand are; 115 Federal listed at 1125 fps for a 129 power factor, 124 Federal listed at 1109 fps for a 137 pf. The listings are based on a 4" barrel so they would exit my stock 2 a little hotter. To be safe at the match chrono and just know I am legal otherwise (and not be the first guy who gets hosed when the poppers are out of calibration) I like to be in the 132 - 136 pf range for my reloaded ammo. For 9mm it does not seem like there is a whole lot of difference between factory target ammo power and the match power you need for USPSA. If the frame damage seen was only on guns that had 6# springs and shot self defense ammo then it seems like USPSA ammo would be very different & very possibly not cause the problem, but I don't think that the self defense ammo is what the folks who are using 6# springs would be shooting.

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It can be expensive to think about these things. Optimizing the ramp profile for maximum hammer travel and smoothest lift angle seems like a better solution than shortening bolos to get more travel in double action. I do not have the machinist ninja skills (or at least the guts) to try this, but I could see it as something that a real gunsmith might figure out and then offer as part of a tuning/competition package.

Agreed. Ideally it would be a calm and polite exchange and then the opinion that does matter would resolve any issue.

But your opinion is of no importance, unless you are the RM.

Why not immediately ask the RM whenever there is a dispute? Shooters seem to react much better when I volunteer to get the real authority for the match involved and if r.o.'s are moving with squads then the RM can make sure everyone plays by the same decision. The RM is also usually more skilled at handling these kind of situations than the average RO. Looking at it as a shooter, if something is really important enough to matter (very very rare) and I feel like the RO is wrong, it does not matter what the RO says we need to get the RM. I am not above asking the shooter who initiated the dispute to go and find the RM if a hike is involved and other shooters can be ran.

Yes. Because. That was your job. Technically. When stuff like this comes up I think the real thing is for both parties to not get upset about it, you made what you thought was the right call, no animals were harmed during filming, and the next RM might make the opposite decision.

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