Carmoney

Well.....I think this might be a situation where different techniques in operating the trigger pull gauge can wind up with different measurements. As we have recently discussed on another thread recently, it's dang difficult to accurately measure the DA pull on a revo. I have never measured one of my DA trigger pulls anywhere near 3.5 pounds. My competition action job (for those who indicate they will be using well-seated Federal primers only) on a centerfire revolver typically measures 5.5 to 6 pounds DA, on my gauge anyway. Although one of my goals is consistency from one gun to the next, I have found that every individual gun is different--some can go a little lighter and some must be a little heavier in order to remain reliable. I don't normally bother to check trigger pull weights when I'm doing the action work. I just make it as light as I can while still maintaining 100% ignition reliability as well as good trigger rebound. Generally this puts them around 5.5 to 6, which is still plenty light.

The other guy in the picture is Russ Lary, then Chief of Police of Grantham, NH, and a very good competitive shooter in his own right.

Thanks for the kind words, Steven! I'm sure you'll enjoy that heater.

Several excellent contributions here.

This conversation pops up every so often around here. Bottom line......we damn near lost Revolver Division in USPSA a few years back, and campaigned the Board of Directors to change the revolver rules to be more inclusive and accommodate guns with custom barrels, additional modifications, etc. We literally re-wrote the current equipment rules right here on this forum. We talked about all this stuff, and there was an overwhelming consensus to keep it 6 rounds between reloads, with no ports/comps. I'm sure a search would reveal that poll and thread, if somebody wants to take the time to dig it up. Participation in the division has increased since then, and at this point there does not appear to be immediate pressure to get rid of USPSA Revo. It would not be viable to split revolvers into multiple divisions.

The 6-shot .357 cylinders and 8-shot cylinders do not interchange on the N-frames. They have slightly different bore radius dimensions.

I can't stand it when the whores start picking up brass before the match is torn down and the stuff put away. At the places where I shoot, we need everybody to pitch in and help. It's bothered me enough this year that I have begun asking people not to pick up brass until the work is done. I'm merely voicing what most of us are thinking, but we have some new shooters so I try to be nice about it (and most of the time I succeed).

That name is a blast from the past for me! I used to shoot bowling pins with Mike LaRocca (a very good gunsmith, by the way) every week back in the '80s during the three years I lived in New England. In fact, the matches were run by one of LaRocca's gunsmiths, a guy named Ringo. They were both good shooters. Wonder if Ringo is still around?

I'm enjoying watching the show, but can't help thinking that I'm seeing some really mediocre shooting overall, sprinkled with only a few moments of brilliance. I realize we haven't seen much from Blake and J.J. and a couple others yet, but seriously.....this is all the better they could do, in terms of casting this thing? I can think of several truly excellent all-around shooters, guys who can shoot anything well and have proven their ability to quickly master a strange gun, and none of them are on the show! Ah well.....like I said, I'm enjoying it, and I do think it's good for the game.

A-3 is in August. I don't see Matt G. on the list yet, but I hope he and a bunch of other revolver guys sign up! It would be great to have 14 or 15 wheels like we did at A-5. Based on what showed up in the results at A-5, I don't blame you for picking Matt as the favorite. What doesn't show up in those results are all the extra reloads I had to eat due to silly misses on steel (and shooting steel is normally a strength of mine)! After a bit of a slump last year, I'm actually shooting really well overall in 2010, so I'm writing A-5 off as a fluky day for me. I won't predict a winner, but I know I plan to give Matt--and whoever else decides to rise to the challenge--a real run for it in Revo at A-3.

Happy Birthday, Dave!

What the hell is a grit, anyway?

Brad joined our local group for dinner at the steakhouse in Omaha last year during Area 3, and it was a nice experience all the way around. The only problem with Brad representing the Richmond, California USPSA club on Top Shots is that they probably couldn't put Dan Carden on at the same time. I would love to see Dan on the show, walking around the house wearing his sunglasses and pith helmet, and stopping in the middle of the shooting challenges to take a cell phone call, talking in rapid-fire Spanish to his concrete crew back home. Now that would be "must see TV."

I appreciate the plug, but I don't have the machinery to install the Weigand bases.

Wheelgunners are more than welcome to jump in on Squad 36 with me!

I am!

That's just not true. An ammunition manufacturer's license is required if the person engages in the business of selling or distributing reloads for the purpose of livelihood and profit. It's perfectly legal to load ammo for a buddy as a favor. [see 18 U.S.C. 922(a) (i) and 923(a), 27 CFR 478.41.]

Interesting. Anybody know who makes the moonclips marketed by Brownells? I also assumed Ranch was their OEM contractor.

Here's a couple other snippets of moonclip advice: 1. Whatever kind you get, make sure you get enough of them to get through a whole match day without having to de-moon and re-moon between stages. There are multiple reasons for this, not the least of which is the fact that it allows you to cylinder-test every loaded moonclip the night before. Remember, one sticky reload and you have completely defeated the entire purpose of those special moonclips that were so expensive you decided to only buy a 10-pack. A moonclip checker may help, but nothing completely substitutes for actually checking every loaded moon in the cylinder of the actual gun. 2. If you use machined moonclips (such as Hearthcos), use a Dremel and a small cratex tip to gently bevel the sharp edges of the large center hole of the clip. This will allow the moonclips to slide more smoothly down onto the posts of your holders, which can be important on a stage where you have to start with all your moonclips on a table or in a briefcase. 3. Tight fitting moonclips are only good if they are dimensioned perfectly. With the Hearthcos, you can have them fit tight and they will work great, because they hold the rounds in exactly the corrrect place. Stamped moonclips that hold the brass too tightly will often cause binding problems.

What do you need to know, Lee? For .45 ACP, call Ranch Products in Malinta, OH and order a pack of 100. There's no need to spend any more for .45 moonclips. For any other caliber, buy Hearthco moonclips directly from Dave Hearth, and be sure to tell him what kind of brass you'll be using. Get as many as you can afford, ideally at least 30.

Second in the back row is Ken Schmidtchen (he's the one that had the Sierpina comp gun), fourth in the back row is Eric Marino, front right is Don Gianquitto. Sia visited me here in Iowa a couple months ago. He's the one I have managed to stay in touch with over the years, although I took the family back to New England a couple years ago (my first trip back since I moved here in the late '80s) and we got together at Sia's place with Craig and his wife. Craig and Mary Beth both look exactly the same as they did 20+ years ago.....sure wish I could say the same! For those who weren't around the Boston area shooting scene back then, this may be a boring addition to the thread. But perhaps even more than the pictures of the "big name" shooters, these old photos bring back priceless memories for me....so thanks for the indulgence. Just for fun, here's another shot of a couple guys we used to shoot with regularly, back in the day:

Me too. The other thing they could have done is to make it with a true rounded trigger face with all the edges nicely blended and contoured. This would differentiate it enough from the stock factory trigger that it might create a functional advantage for those who prefer that kind of trigger profile. Maybe that could be their 2.0 version!

Pure marketing. The difference between MIM and tool steel might matter for certain high-stress 1911/2011 applications, but S&W's stock MIM revolver triggers and hammers are great parts. They slick up great and I have never seen one fail. I chose MIM parts for both my match 625s, and I have access to both kinds.

Sorry that you lost your friend, Jon.

Seems like a complete waste of money to me. The single-action trigger pull on a S&W revolver is near perfection anyway, and stock triggers can be smoothed up quite easily. I can't imagine how this product is going to add any sort of meaningful improvement to the double-action trigger pull. I like some of the Power Custom products a lot--particularly the trigger/hammer and endshake bearings--but this looks like another part that is being offered purely for marketing reasons.