Carmoney

That seems pretty unlikely.

Yes, but then the number of Revo competitors would instantly drop back down to the miserable level it had reached before they brought it to PASA. Last Nats in Vegas only had 17 wheels. Revo Nats is being propped up by SS shooters who hang around and shoot an extra "fun match" because they are already there.

Dave, sounds to me like he knows what to do, but is having a hard time being patient because it feels like his sights are returning to the target "through syrup." With a revolver, there is no reciprocating slide to help the gun come back down, there is only tension from the shooter's grip on the gun. The syrupy feeling will go away if the sights (1) don't rise as much in the first place, and (2) snap back onto target faster and more positively. Gripping the gun harder will help with both of those.

Most problems like this can be solved by holding onto the gun harder.

....says the revolver guy?!

I have a really nice custom Hi-Power that came from a friend of mine, and it is an absolute pleasure to shoot. I have won steel matches with it, against shooters using more "modern" designs of all sorts. For me, the Hi-Power has better ergonomics than pretty much any other handgun.

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Let me tell you the correct place to use grease...in the wheel bearings of your vehicle. Not in your revolver. ?

This was the first thing that occurred to me also.

I would love to be proven wrong.

I hate to sound so negative, but the reality is that participation in USPSA Revo keeps fading every year. I shot two area matches last year and we had 3 and 4 wheelgunners, respectively. Many people on this forum talk the talk, but won't actually show up and compete. Sam Keen and I have tried numerous times to generate interest with special revolver-only matches is IA and TN over the last 10 years, with only limited (and temporary) success. There is little support in USPSA for the division. Several years ago, when I was on the IPSC World Shoot U.S. Revolver team (I wound up not going), they wouldn't even provide us with shirts. And with the dismal mission counts put up in Revo, who can really blame them? Now when people ask me about USPSA Revo, I tell them to forget it if they want any real competition. Shooting for fun is fine--but I enjoy real competition. And for me, that means finding it in other divisions. Guys--it's over. When Sam says he's given up, when Cliff shoots his M&P at a local match instead of revolver at the FL Open, when Matt plays golf instead of shooting, when Jerry doesn't bother with Revolver Nats for the last several years, etc., etc., etc....we're done. It was fun while it lasted. It really was.

Sad to say it, but Revolver Division is on life support.

No, the Midwest ICORE Regional will be held this spring at the Green Valley club in Missouri. Check the ICORE calendar for dates and details.

Peterthefish is squarely on track with this post.

Exactly--a State Farm PLUP will have a variety of exclusions, but none that directly involve volunteer participation or officiating in the shooting sports.

Untrue. Waivers are not infallible, but they are upheld by the courts in most jurisdictions. They do not affect the rights of other claimants who don't sign the form (most common example, consortium plaintiffs).

I'm comfortable with the old-school FBI .38 LSWCHP loads. But as a general rule, ammo that meets the 12" gelatin penetration standard will overpenetrate on a human, unless it hits bone. In my view, the ideal defense load penetrates enough to get into the vitals, but expends all its energy and stops before exiting the other side.

Spool down to the bottom of this chart and you will find my carry load (Win. +P+ Treasury load). Makes 976 fps out of a 2-inch, penetrates 8" and expands to .60" (though the clothing protocol it penetrates a little deeper and expands a little less). Not exactly Thor's hammer, but way better than friggin' wadcutters. (By the way, I like the idea of only 8" of penetration for defense ammo. I am not a believer in the FBI studies and all of Marty Fackler's nonsense.)

I'm an attorney in real life and my practice is 100% devoted to defending civil lawsuits. Here's my take on this: When I run a match, or grab the timer and serve as an RO, I don't accept any compensation. It is purely a volunteer effort on my part. With that in mind, I am reasonably confident that in addition to whatever liability coverage may exist in the organization and/or local club, I should be covered by my own personal liability insurance (via homeowners and personal umbrella policies). I am clearly not acting in a business capacity. If my carrier (which is not one of my firm's insurance clients, by the way, for this very reason) tries to deny me a defense or indemnity, they will have a much bigger problem on their hands with the bad faith action they will be facing from me. Fortunatey, serious injuries at our matches are incredibly rare. We can thank the fact that we have a well-reasoned and mature rulebook for that. But shit does happen. For those concerned about this issue, I recommend a paid consultation with an experienced civil trial attorney licensed in your state of residence. Insurance agents and underwriters mean well (usually), but they are not always well-informed on what risks their own companies' policies cover and do not cover.

Yeah, I agree with Brian B also. Gripping hard is not everything when it comes to effective handgun shooting.....but it is almost everything!

I sometimes carry a loaded speed strip in my other pocket, but truth be told, I don't really plan to reload my snub in a defense situation. If he's still up at that point, I think I will begin negotiations.

Meh. 38 wadcutters at 650fps? I think my old catchers mitt would stop that stuff. Might be just right for my 99-year-old grandma, though! ? Seriously though, my snubs are loaded with +P+ ammo, and even then I'm not overly confident in their stopping power. Lots of Youtube tactical experts without a single gray hair in their pretty little beards would probably disagree with me.

Makes sense to me, Rick. I'm not convinced it's a huge deal either way.

No prize, no plaque.....and they couldn't even be bothered to list the Revolver Division winner in the Front Sight article. No respect. But frankly, with only four competitors who were willing to run the wheel at Area 5, it's hard to blame them.