Carlos

Flex wrote: "Gives Clay's website a read." Excellent advice! Credit goes to Clay; that is an exceptional website & well worth a thorough visit. Regards, C. PS - keep the data coming.

"I think a zero bullet jump OAL will be right at 1.135 as you quoted." The rifling in a Glock is a long ways out there. Throat is very very long. How long? While you should never try this yourself, I have fired .40 ammo loaded with 180s loaded to 1.200" OAL (Zero JHP & Star FMJ) out of a Glock. You can only fit two or possibly three in a magazing of a G22 but they fit the chamber/barrel & fire fine w/o touching the rifling (yes, I checked 1st before pulling that trigger). Where is the rifling in a STOCK glock barrel? Someplace beyond 1.200" I'd imagine. Try this same stunt with a different brand .40 or with an aftermarket Glock barrel & you may well end up injured (as will your .40). -as posted above, the Magazine limit on OAL for a Glock is around 1.150 to 1.160" depending on the bullet & individual Glock magazine. Rudy Waldinger, former member of the Austrian National Glock Team (betcha didn't know Rudy was a Glockman before coming to the US) advised me that Glocks "prefer" a longer OAL for best feeding. Thus, I rarely if ever load shorter than 1.135" and usually load closer to 1.150". If you attempt N320, do not load any shorter than 1.150". Thanks again & keep the info coming (typos & all).

Update: I ordered a Clark custom bushing barrel and (having never used a Clark before) was surprised when it showed up as a 6" barrel. Did I put down the wrong number out of the Brownells catalog? No. Turns out Clark makes all its barrels in 6". Simply trim to fit if its for use in a 5" & re-crown. Ordinarily, I could use the lathe at Phil Strader's former business, Shooters Paradise. However, about 4 months back, the ceiling of the gunsmith shop collapsed. The shop was a room located behind the bullet trap. When the bullet trap was upgraded for indoor rifle use, the backstop material (shredded rubber) began accumulating and eventually . . . No lights, no cieling and a thick coating of lead dust over everything including the lathe. Tonight I showed up & the lathe was gone, sold off to the highest bidder by the new owners. I will not be doing any barrel shortening on this project. So, I agreed to buy a Briliey. Payment has been sent & it should be here in a couple of weeks. The STI barrel bushing I have is oversize enough to fit (.704) and most all parts have arrived. More to follow after the sectional this weekend. Regards, D.C. Johnson

Good info. Why so short OAL? I believe the manuals state that the MINIMUM OAL is 1.126" - however, that is not the recommended nor the most safe OAL. I would go out to at least 1.135" with a bullet that heavy. Please keep the info coming.

Have always done them by hand, going very slowly towards the end. Patrick wrote: If the gun was pissy about running when dirty, I'd clean the chamber and ream it forward a few thousandths. If not, I left it alone. -same here. THe advantage to a slightly deep chamber can be two-fold; reliability when slightly fouled and reliability even if a high primer is encountered. Potential downside is slight loss of accuracy, but not always. I ream to the longest case I expect to encounter. This means I pull several factory loaded rounds, measure the cases & select the longest to use as a guide.

On the plus side of a High Point (if there are many plus sides) it does appear that they build a gun just for our sport: the "Comp" model ("comp" short for competition model?): 9mm Comp Model Gotta love those who support the sport!

I thought they used a pure blow back action? Recoil would appear to ba excessive. Night/day comparing a High point (a yugo) to a used Glock 17 (a Mercedes/Corvette/Lamborgini - you choose). For the money, you will enjoy the Glock far more than the hipoint.

I would not consider anything but a 625; maybe its just me. I shoot ICORE, USPSA and the occasional steel/pins match. I think its the only way to go especially since you wrote: 1) You are short on coin and 2) You are set up for .45 ACP already (saves coin). Must haves? Very few: -Federal primers -DIY chamfer cylinder -holster. I see little to no benefit from my race holster. Mine was free but the $$ they cost are mostly wasted IMHO. If you must have a lighter trigger (and it does help), just drop in the Wolf reduced spring kit w/ the "power rib" mainspring and run in the screw all the way. Then shoot. And dry fire. No need to complicate things. Regards, C

I usually hold onto a loaded barney mag in my weak hand when I step into the box just to politely let the RO know I am ready to go.

Cybosh wrote: "SVI has the tri-glide system which is made from titanium, I've seen other internals made from ti." Not entirely correct. The center leaf of the TriGlide spring features a hardened ball bearing that is made of some other metal (not Ti) while the rest of the spring IS Ti. The critical contact surface is thus not Ti. The TriGlide trigger bow can be made of Ti, but it to features a ball bearing that is not Ti. The rest of the bow primarily bears against the plastic grip frame where there are no gauling issues. The disconnector is steel. It is difficult to generalize about Ti and its uses in handguns. Thus, it is not possible to state "Ti is the best material period" - without knowing the exact application, coating, alloy, etc. As AET states, it is possible to use it to reduce lock time and as Major 9 caspian has discovered, it can yield a lighter frame - though there are always trade offs (cost, durability, reliability of ignition, etc). BTW, Cybosh: happy new year! Regards, C.

Before I raced handguns, I raced motorcycles and we used and expiramented with Titanium alloys extensively. In general, Ti is most suitable for static applications where it will not contact moving parts of the machine or where that contact is kept to a minimum. Racing benefitted from reduced unsprung weight using Ti bolts and other parts associated with the front & rear wheels. In a pistol, Ti should best be used (in my opinion) for parts like compensators that really just sit there. Ti has been used in frames (The Scandium frames are aluminum/Ti/Scandium alloy), but I believe that it is always coated or anodized to prevent it from interacting with other metals (this was the problem we encountered; Ti would "weld" itself to dissimilar metals unless we used nickle based anti-sieze). There is some benefit to be had in reduced lock time with Ti parts and in the case of a hammer strut, there is minimal moving contact with other parts.

Just to clarify: this thread is about COMPONENTS. We are talking BULLETS, PRIMERS, CASES, and POWDER not loaded ammo.

Reasonably priced JHPs in .40/180grn and in 9mm/124 would probably sell well. Even if they are FMJs at a reasonable price, it could work. Wolf has sponsored at least one shooter in our sports. And they seem open minded. This could be a win win for us, guys.

Perhaps, but not backed up by real-world experience. Major9 is not blowing up guns at the 165 PF. Some guys are even trying & succeeding with 115 grn bullets & once-fired brass (I wouldn't, but that is me). If there were evidence of case seperations, I might shy away from Major9. ANyone have any evidence?

Don't know about shortening a barrel, but I have re-crowned rifle barrels that were chromed even though everyone seems afraid to do so. No ill effects to date on the new crown (although bare non-stainless steel is exposed so watch out for rust). I used the Brownells piloted crown cutters in .223 (hand driven). Chrome is hard on tools & will dull them quickly.

MbaneACP wrote: "Because in the absence of more information, a bunch of guys — even if it's the match director and the SOs — getting together after a match and deciding to DQ an individual without discussing it with that individual has nothing to do with either "sport" or "integrity."" Very well put. Agree. Down Zero wrote: "There was no meeting after the match. The CSO meeting in question occured the night that Taran shot." Put another way, it WAS after the match. It was after Taran had finished shooting. Aparently nothing he did WHILE shooting earned him the DQ. Rather, they discussed his performance, and then issued a DQ? There is no evidence that the matter was ever brought up to him prior to the decision. Without further explanation, this does not seem very fair. I hope that an explanation is forthcoming. Regards, D.C. Johnson

Perhaps as a fellow lawyer, Kelly N will appreciate this common (though hated) phraseology: "my client suffered a conviction for . . ."

Sprinco recoil reducer in one and the stock spring in the other; both have the CZ buffers. One note of caution: never try to use this gun in a Limcat holster for the 1911. I tried that & it turns out the "lock" presses on the trigger in the holster. That might be fine so long as the safey is on, but I had an AD while IN the holster & finger not on the trigger. A better option is the safe Ghost holster for the CZ. Or a CR speed.

Yo Rik! Great report and you added some photos to boot! I think that the photos really help visualize the match you shot by showing the stage designs (looks like good stages, BTW). AND - that T-shirt is just too cool! Glad I am not the only one to dress the part; I wore a shirt last year to Thurmont 3gun that said "I (heart) MY AK-47" (w/ picture of Kalasnikov). Glad that you had a good time. See you at the nationals in a year or two (if I ever make it out there). Regards, C.

About the shortest length I will risk w/ N320 is 1.165 to 1.170" - a lenght that I must run for my CZ Standard IPSCs (they use a mid-sized CZ frame/magazine; between the size of a 75 and a 97B). At that short length, I can usually meet major with as few as 4.5 grns of N320 or up to 4.7 grns of N320. Won't risk any more than that. One more caution: .40 blows up if the bullet sets back. Make up some test rounds and chamber them, then re-measure. Make darn sure none of your .40 rounds will ever set back at all. I do not believe in trying to cure set-back w/ the "crimp" setting. A better way is to use a small base die or a Lee brand Undersize die.

Something seems amiss here: The Remington Tactical slug (sometimes called the "low recoil" load) is made for ONE purpose: Nuetralize assailants (the 2 legged kind). The fact that it is suitable for our game is a coincidence. Our origins dictate that Major scoring should be accorded to the best rounds for" "nuetralizing assailants". Why then, would we have a rule that is forcing some competitors to use slug ammo so powerful that it is designed to nuetralize the much-tougher-to-kill game animals than a 2 legged assailant? It seems to me that if the best round that technology can deliver for police/defense work cannot meet our standards in an ordinary gun like a common police-issue 1187, then it is our standards that need an adjustment. Lower the power factor to a real world level. If you want a PF higher than the real world, fine. But do it by creating a seperate Division for shotgun "heavy metal". Regards, D.C. Johnson

You have experience & you did your homework regarding heavy bullets & fast powder. The ONE KEY factor that allows us to use most of these combinations (heavy bullet + fast powder) is: LONG OVERALL LENGTH Most of the loads we list on this site will NOT WORK IN MOST .40 S&W GUNS. Why not? The OAL is so long (1.200") that no more than one or two rounds fit in a "normal" .40 cal magazine. I am looking at Speer, Number 13; page 544 and it claims: Max Cart. Length: 1.135" Not true!!! Even in .40s like the Glock, H&K, Steyr, CZ, etc. I load to at least 1.150" But the loads you are seeing with Clays & N320? Most are loaded out to 1.200 or longer. If you are forced to load to a shorter OAL due to magazine or chamber length, do not use data from longer length loads.

I am not Matt or Angus, but maybe I can get a few things out of the way before they take time to state the Team CZ-USA positions: Q.Which of their guns is the hot ticket for USPSA Production? -4 choices for USPSA Production: -85 Combat (only comes in 9mm) -SP-01 (both frame and decocker models) -85 Cobat II (really an SP-01 w/ 1" shorter dust cover) -the .40 cal 75B (only way to shoot .40 in Production w/a competitive CZ) Q. Does the -75B require a modification to drop free its magazines? -Yes. Takes about 5 min. to straighten out & re-install the "mag break" Q. Is the mod USPSA legal? -Yes. It is internal. Q.Can I shjt-can the -85 Combat's adjustable rear sight and install a fixed target rear sight? Yes. The sight is a factory option, as is the hammer Angus sells. Q. Does Angus' fixed target rear sight require a taller front? -Yes. It comes as a set w/ correct front sight. Q. Is the -75SP01 really available? -Yes. Do a search on "Impact Guns SP-01" THeir import numbers are WRONG. More SP-01 are on the way to Angus this month or next in addition to Impact guns. Q. Are its magazines available or expensive? -dunno. Q. (Is it legal to use -75B magazines with it?) -dunno. Q. Is their a USPSA legal holster available for it? -yes. look over on www.czforum.com Kydex I believe. Q. Is the Tactical (decocker) model more or less desirable? - I personally prefer the frame safety plus you can use it in ESP. Q. Which gun has the best potential for the best trigger? -Oy! Dunno. I know that only the 85 Combat has an overtravel screw; the SP-01 is a production gun that lacks this target/competition feature. I have not tried the competition DA/SA hammer that CZ offers as a factory option on their guns; I would imagine Matt or Angus could do an absolute TOP NOTCH job w/ one of those. Regards, D.C. Johnson

If we are talking about Petra Tutschke, I saw her at our US Nationals as well; I believe she shot Limited. I also have 2 friends who are sponsored in the US by HK-USA; shooting HK handguns. No beef w/ HK's handgun program. However, HK's rifle program could do a lot better in the public relations department by explaining why they would first show the HK-416 system (AR-15 upper) at the SHOT show; then restrict it to LE-only viewing the following year, and then try to buy back the few AR-15 uppers that made it into civilian hands. Why the anti-civilian stance by HK rifle department? I'd like to hear it from HK. It reminds me of Colt's policy whereby they have decided to follow the now-expired Assault Weapon Ban as company policy with regard to their semi-auto AR-15s (as far as us civilians are concerned). I would not have such a problem with the assault weapon ban/mag limit company policies if they did not have such a dire effect on one sport in particular: USPSA. My next AR will probably come from either DPMS or JP. Any other companies that folks would like to recommend?

Laquered? I have not seen laquered Wolf in years! All the new stuff has a grep Polymer coat, not the old laquer. The new grey colored Polymer runs 100% in my ARs and is very soft shooting. For shots under 100 meters, it is the best ammo I have found for the price (I use the 62 grn JHP). Beyond 100, it is not as accurate as some brands.