@Grump O'La,Lol.. my range won't let me pick up my brass, said if they see me they are gona have me booted out the place and this is the place closest to me that I can shoot in such a short notice that allows me too shoot my reloads... I emailed Mr Tony Hanson owner of the brassgrabber he never replied so I called em and asked about his product talke for a few but one thing gets me, if I would never had called would he even reply? Or if I was to place an order would I even get my produsct delivered? So be my Guinea pig and buy to see if it gets delivered! Lol... Tony said he's a one man company ill give him a call tomorro and put my order in or should I say ill order it from his wesite cause he can't take my order over the phone.... wish me luck and ill let you all know how it works.. I also told em his product is talked about on the forums so maybe he will chime in...!