Chuck Anderson

Great match so far. I've shot 10, 8, 9, 5 and 6 (yes in that order) The long (?) range rifle so far gave me fits. Apparently I shouldn't go to a match with a rifle that I shot for the first time 3 days ago and haven't shot past 100 yds. Other than that it's going well. The roller coaster is the same height as it was for Area 2 so it doesn't look any where near as difficult as that was. Stages look pretty cool. Not much shotgun reloading. Lots of 12 round SG stages and one 14 round slug stage. 6 rounds is the most anyone "should" have to reload. All the pistol stages are low round count, 6 rounds here, 8 rounds there stuff. Out of the three rifle stages I've shot so far I used the C-Mag on them all and will use it one more time tomorrow. Came in handy.

I must have gotten lucky. I got home from dinner (forgot about the wait list till half way through), ran upstairs, entered everything and lucked into spot 17 for the L10/Open. Only took one time.

Okay, the clock for me is showing Pacific Standard Time. Just checking but it goes live at Eastern time right? What's with the clock?

The magnifiers, Aimpoint and EoTech are legal for Tactical now.

I sight the CQ/T so that the top of the dot is on at 100 yd. It's center of the dot at 50 and 200, and the bottom of the dot at 300. Doesn't cover anything past 200 yds.

3x is plenty enough for three gun. The advantage of the Eo-Tech is that it only has a 1 MOA dot. At 400 yds it will only obscure 4 inches of the target area. The downside is that there are no ranging stadia on the reticle which could make it a bit trickier for hold over. Depends on where you sight it in though. I've used a 1-3x CQ/T for the last several years with no issues. I've taken shots out to 500 yds with it successfully. Basically as long as you can see and ID the target you have enough magnification. There are still guys shooting irons at these matches and they can do it with no magnification.

Dustin Lohof had a set of these at last years MGM match. All the open guys on the squad ended up sharing them at some point including Burkett. A 10 round speed loader( and a couple guys reloading them for you), is a great benefit on a 45 round shotgun stage. Especially after shooting all that rifle and pistol ammo on the same stage.

Hitting a bad guy in a specific area otherwise covered by No-Shoots around him? I'll buy that. Neil, I'm not sure how many people you've had to point guns at, but having a very limited target area, surrounded by an area that I really don't want to hit seems about right.

Floyd, have you sent out any confirmations? I sent my check in a while ago and it was never cashed, never returned and now I'm a bit worried. Chuck Anderson

Yeah, keep in mind Angus don't speak American.

It's easy enough to even the ground for the Saiga's. Just throw a few select slug drills into the match or a, all ammo starts in the ammo can stage.

SP01 Shadow? Or just the SP01.

Yes you can get a flat top. I've got a flattop, with a flat gas block (doesn't really do anything since its a blowback gun) and a quad rail tube. All from the factory. Not sure about pricing. I bought mine straight from Oly.

+1 on the Olympic. I was surprised how good it is. No malfunctions and the Glock mags work great. Don't get the Olympic "match trigger" Mine went full auto several times.

My M&P with a Warren rear and stock front sight shoots about 4-6 inches high at 25 yds as well. With the AA 147gr JHP.

I would say it depends on what type of matches you shoot. If all you shoot are the local club matches I wouldn't bother with a spare gun. If something breaks, go home and work on the lawn. It's not a big deal for the close stuff. If you're going to spend more going to a match than the cost of the backup gun, you probably need a backup. If you plan on travelling and staying in a hotel, or flying, go going to a match with a high entry fee, you're probably better off having the insurance policy of the spare gun. Glocks are rock solid but they're only as good as the ammo that goes into them. I've seen plenty of pictures of blown up Glocks that no bag of spare parts is going to fix.

After coordinating sponsors for a few matches I found that there is at least as many sponsors that won't donate to a random match, as ones that will not donate to a top down table.

When I spoke with Aaron Hampton last month he said that there will be a Ft. Benning 3-Gun this year. With some really cool stages this year. A pure guess but I'd be willing to bet that apps won't be available till after the Targeting Education match in May that Linda is working. I doubt that she wants to deal with both of them at the same time. I know I couldn't handle one.

Rich is right...did I just say that? Rob, Brian, Todd and the rest created that market for sponsors. They didn't just fall into it. When they were coming up (not when they had arrived) there were no sponsorships. The beginning of this sport is only some 30 odd years ago. Sponsors did not just spring forth and start doling out money. The early years I'm sure were leaner than the period you describe. Yes there was a golden age for sponsors. But that is way gone. The current fact is shooters have a really hard time keeping up by selling prizes from matches. What does the top shooter at Nationals get now? A full blown open gun like they used to even five years ago? Nope. Best they're gonna hope for is something in the 7-800 range. And that is on the high side. I've seen Nationals where the top prize was a Springfield Mil-Spec. Not that it isn't a great gun, but it ain't gonna pay the bills either. Right now count up the number of shooters that are fully sponsored. I mean that's all they do. Just shoot. There are none. (Well maybe Eric Graufel but let's keep it in the US) All of them have some other job that they do to pay the bills. Whether it's working in marketing for a gun company like Dave Sevigny or doing contract training like Robbie and Mike and Todd. And besides that, there aren't even that many that are sponsored to a point where they should be called that. Most of them have product sponsors that give them some occasional stuff or a gun now and then. But there just aren't that many that pay all the match fees and travel and room and board. The top down is the only way that these guys can afford to keep going. Yeah the B, C, and D class supports this table. But most GM's started as B, C, and D class shooters themselves. If you want that top prize, win your class and walk the table at the top.

Instructors will always come first. The best facility in the world with the best lesson plan will fail if some dipstick is teaching it. By the same token the best instructor will fail if the material taught sucks. My preference would be to get that top notch instruction, with top notch material being taught and in a top notch facility. What does the facility have to do with it? Some folks said that a good instructor can teach just about anywhere. I'm willing to bet that if Kurt took me out to a skeet range and taught me how to load a shotgun, I'd learn and would be better for it. But, a great facility makes it easier on the students to learn. A facility that has housing on site so you don't have to get a hotel room. Close enough to an airport that you can get a cab instead of paying for a rental car for a whole week. That right there is going to be a cost savings over a lot of schools. How about a classroom that is properly set up with the multimedia tools needed to teach a power point, or videos. Air conditioned classroom? I've spent my time in sweaty quonset huts trying to learn. It's distracting. My priorities would be instructor, material and then facility. But I know that all three can be combined into one location.

Columbia Cascade (OR) section just got our slots. Getting ready to divvy them up.

20 ga.

Took mine out and printed it the other day. Biggest group (sloppy on the trigger) was under 3". Best groups ran right about 1" at 25 yds. M&P9 with a Warren rear sight and factory front. Nothing else done to the gun using Atlanta Arms 147 gr Team Glock load.

Last I heard Vince said Tru-Grip was still good to go. And would be even with the new rule. He just poorly drew the diagram.

Kim, if there is anyone from Area 1 that I can help with let me know. We've got a pretty good contact list from that match. And in case Bruce didn't let you know, Todd Hanlon ain't going.