Jack Suber Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 (edited) The USPSA IPSC Nationals will be held at Mid-Carolina Rifle Club, Columbia SC, Oct 1-2, 2010. This will be a Level III World Shoot Qualifier Match. The match will consist of a minimum 12 Stages. It will be a one day format - shooters will shoot either Friday or Saturday. Updates and information will be posted at www.southcarolina-uspsa.org. Edited January 16, 2010 by Jack Suber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mwx40x40 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Can any USPSA member shoot this? Or, do you have to earn some kind of slot like the Nats? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leam Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Also, is it IPSC or USPSA? Point being, for those of us who are RO Lackeys, I can help with a USPSA match but am not certified as an IPSC RO. Leam Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Also, is it IPSC or USPSA? Point being, for those of us who are RO Lackeys, I can help with a USPSA match but am not certified as an IPSC RO. Leam It is an IPSC match. Jack ususally has people standing in line to work his Sectional matches, so he'll have to chime in with whether they will need any additional help for this one. If they do, he can probably find something for you to do. Jack, if I'm off base, feel free to flick my ear the next time you see me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Suber Posted January 16, 2010 Author Share Posted January 16, 2010 Any USPSA member can compete in this match. They must if they wish to qualify for the the World Shoot. As for ROs, it is an "IPSC" match. Therefore, ROs will be required to be IPSC ROs. IPSC equipment rules apply (i.e. for Standard). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ima45dv8 Posted January 16, 2010 Share Posted January 16, 2010 Any chance there will be an IPSC certification class available before then? (consider my ear "flicked") Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Suber Posted January 16, 2010 Author Share Posted January 16, 2010 (edited) Also, is it IPSC or USPSA? Point being, for those of us who are RO Lackeys, I can help with a USPSA match but am not certified as an IPSC RO. Leam It is an IPSC match. Jack ususally has people standing in line to work his Sectional matches, so he'll have to chime in with whether they will need any additional help for this one. If they do, he can probably find something for you to do. Jack, if I'm off base, feel free to flick my ear the next time you see me. Mark, You are correct and I "hope" you are correct when it comes to volunteers (that we will have people lining up for this match, too). I do know that we will need IPSC CROs on each stage but I think we can have USPSA ROs on the stages to help. Edited January 16, 2010 by Jack Suber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Suber Posted January 16, 2010 Author Share Posted January 16, 2010 Any chance there will be an IPSC certification class available before then?(consider my ear "flicked") That is a good question. I guess we need to figure out how to do that. I will start inquiring. I have always wanted and international certification. I guess this would be a good opportunity. Perhaps we could schedule a class in the Summer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LChico Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) Any USPSA member can compete in this match. They must if they wish to qualify for the the World Shoot. As for ROs, it is an "IPSC" match. Therefore, ROs will be required to be IPSC ROs. IPSC equipment rules apply (i.e. for Standard). IROA requires one IROA official per stage. They do not have to be the CRO. We will need 14 IROA officials minimum (RM, Chrono plus 12 stages). Anyone who has ever shot a match in Columbia SC is aware we are all about the huge staff. The remaining staff will be NROI & other volunteer staff. Linda Chico (L-2035) Columbia SC Edited January 17, 2010 by LChico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvhendrix Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Jack, Are all IPSC divisions being recognized? The post by Chuck indicated only Open/Standard divisions in SC. Can you advise? Also these dates Oct 1-2 conflict with the NC Section match, scheduled Oct 1-3, as several of the SC folks come shoot our match also. Thanks! Paul Competitive Shooters of Statesville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LChico Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I will see Michael Voigt & other USPSA officials at the SHOT Show next week. I will get a clarification on the divisions. MCRC was under the impression it would be all IPSC divisions, but we were not there when the BOD voted. As for the NC Section dates that conflict -- copied from another thread: Looks like someone wasn't paying too much attention in the South either. The IPSC Nationals in Columbia, SC are listed as the same weekend the NC Sectional is in Raleigh, NC. Hope this just means the NC Sectional has been changed and no announcement made yet. We put a lot of attention & time into selecting our dates. We had to pick a weekend without a home football game at the University of South Carolina (to get hotel rooms). We had to find a weekend that suited the 12 other shooting disciplines at our club. Before we set the date, we looked at the USPSA calendar of scheduled matches on-line, the BE Forum Handgun matches for 2010 thread, and the BE Forum thread for Multigun matches in 2010. We looked at NRA events, Steel Challenge events, Glock events and IDPA events. The only conflict we saw was the Missouri Fall Classic. Where exactly is the NC Sectional match posted? Linda Chico (L-2035) Columbia SC Linda/Jack - I spoke with Richard Moser and the NC Sectional has not been posted anywhere, even though it is planned for the same weekend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Suber Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 Jack,Are all IPSC divisions being recognized? The post by Chuck indicated only Open/Standard divisions in SC. Can you advise? Also these dates Oct 1-2 conflict with the NC Section match, scheduled Oct 1-3, as several of the SC folks come shoot our match also. Thanks! Paul Competitive Shooters of Statesville Paul, I am waiting to hear back from Michael Voight on the divisions. I will post a clarification as soon as I hear from him. When we were going through the scheduling, I checked the calendars here and on the USPSA website. NC was listed nowhere so I had to take the first open date that did not conflict with the nats. nor football here in Columbia (one of the main issues). October has 5 weekends, perhaps NC can move to the 5th? Sorry this happened, but we did look around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pezco Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Sweet, I'm in! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HGExplosive Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Count me in also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
proff Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Jack and Linda You are probably already aware but Brian Hanna and Joel Dix have extensive IPSC RO experience and may be willing to help gather the proper staff. TP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Suber Posted January 17, 2010 Author Share Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) Just heard from Michael Voight. He stated that USPSA will only field Open, Production, and Standard teams for the World Shoot. However, he said the divisions to be recognized at the U.S. IPSC championship is my decision. Right now, I am thinking we will accept all and recognize winners consistent with required number of competitors in the rules. Edited January 17, 2010 by Jack Suber Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wgnoyes Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 ...Right now, I am thinking we will accept all and recognize winners consistent with required numbers in the rule. I think that would be good. Just because MV doesn't want to send teams for all divisions doesn't mean you can't service the customers who might want to shoot something other than the big 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LChico Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 Jack and LindaYou are probably already aware but Brian Hanna and Joel Dix have extensive IPSC RO experience and may be willing to help gather the proper staff. TP Terry, I worked the 2009 US IPSC Nationals in Ohio & am the Match Director for the 2010 IPSC Pan American Shotgun Championship. Between the two, I think I have contact for nearly every IROA certified RO in the US! Linda Chico (L-2035) 2010 US IPSC Nationals Statistician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LChico Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 ...Right now, I am thinking we will accept all and recognize winners consistent with required numbers in the rule. I think that would be good. Just because MV doesn't want to send teams for all divisions doesn't mean you can't service the customers who might want to shoot something other than the big 3. And I hope we can field a big enough group to award medals for Revolver National IPSC Champion & several category awards in something other than Open. Linda Chico (L-2035) 2010 US IPSC Nationals Statistician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pvhendrix Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) It is my understanding that IPSC only recognizes, Open, Standard (not Limited), Modified, Production (more restrictive than US as to models), Revolver-Standard. There are no L-10 or SS divisions under their banner. Are theirs the divisions you are going to recoginize, or are you going to allow all US divisions also? If the match is to be ran under IPSC rules. I would suggest that our folks read the IPSC rules and make sure that they are compliant. Production and Standard are much different than our Production and Limited divisions. Jack, I hope to shoot it on Friday as I've got to be at out Sectional on Sat and Sunday. Thanks for stepping up to do this one. I'm looking forward to playing. Paul Edited January 17, 2010 by pvhendrix Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LChico Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 It is my understanding that IPSC only recognizes, Open, Standard (not Limited), Modified, Production (more restrictive than US as to models), Revolver-Standard. There are no L-10 or SS divisions under their banner. Are theirs the divisions you are going to recoginize, or are you going to allow all US divisions also?If the match is to be ran under IPSC rules. I would suggest that our folks read the IPSC rules and make sure that they are compliant. Production and Standard are much different than our Production and Limited divisions. Jack, I hope to shoot it on Friday as I've got to be at out Sectional on Sat and Sunday. Thanks for stepping up to do this one. I'm looking forward to playing. Paul It is the IPSC National Championship. IPSC divisions only (we already have National Championships for our USPSA Divisions). Much like the Ohio version of the IPSC National Championship in 2009, it is not going to be a surprise to anyone who registers. We made clear in all match announcements (Front Sight, BE Forum, Global Village & Match website) that this was a match that would be run strictly under IPSC rules. The match website provided a pdf version of the current IPSC handgun rulebook. The application announced that we were following IPSC rules and only listed IPSC Divisions & IPSC categories as choices on the application. The (rather lengthy) confirmation message sent to all registered competitors AGAIN reminded everyone that it was IPSC rules & not IPSC. I hope you will be able to join us on Friday! Linda Chico (L-2035) 2010 US IPSC Nationals Statistician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LChico Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 (edited) I hope to have an application posted by mid February. Linda Chico (L-2035) 2010 US IPSC Nationals Statistician Edited January 17, 2010 by LChico Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Z Sr Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I would love to shoot this match in Revolver division. Does our USPSA class count, and do we shoot in revolver division in GM,M,A,B,C,D class? Or do we need a IPCS classification and those of us that don't all shoot unclassified? Also, Richard please change our NC Section, this match looks to good and big to pass up!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LChico Posted January 17, 2010 Share Posted January 17, 2010 I would love to shoot this match in Revolver division. Does our USPSA class count, and do we shoot in revolver division in GM,M,A,B,C,D class? Or do we need a IPCS classification and those of us that don't all shoot unclassified? Also, Richard please change our NC Section, this match looks to good and big to pass up!!! USPSA classifications do not count. If you have an IPSC classification, we do use those, but the reality is that so few shooters in the US have IPSC classifications, so that essentially, nearly everyone is unclassified. There are usually not enough shooters in a class to give out class awards (note minimum numbers in Appendix A2 of IPSC handgun rules). Linda Chico (L-2035) 2010 US IPSC Nationals Statistician Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jack Suber Posted January 18, 2010 Author Share Posted January 18, 2010 I would love to shoot this match in Revolver division. Does our USPSA class count, and do we shoot in revolver division in GM,M,A,B,C,D class? Or do we need a IPCS classification and those of us that don't all shoot unclassified? Also, Richard please change our NC Section, this match looks to good and big to pass up!!! USPSA classifications do not count. If you have an IPSC classification, we do use those, but the reality is that so few shooters in the US have IPSC classifications, so that essentially, nearly everyone is unclassified. There are usually not enough shooters in a class to give out class awards (note minimum numbers in Appendix A2 of IPSC handgun rules). Linda Chico (L-2035) 2010 US IPSC Nationals Statistician Might be a good time for local clubs to consider IPSC Classification matches... MCRC has held them in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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