lucas Posted December 16, 2003 Share Posted December 16, 2003 I never have been able to get used to the extra weight of the long dust cover.I want to cut it down and shape the slide accordingly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mistral404 Posted December 16, 2003 Share Posted December 16, 2003 Call Don at Kodiak Precision-1-480-832-8107 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOtherErik Posted December 16, 2003 Share Posted December 16, 2003 shaping the slide might be too involved($$$)...to be practical. Could be cheaper to start over with a regualr slide. me and my hack saw can take care of your frame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carter Posted December 16, 2003 Share Posted December 16, 2003 Not hard to do at all, would need refinishing of course. I have also internally lightened them for those who like the looks of the long frame and unique cut slide but wanted the feel of the light slide and frame gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted December 16, 2003 Share Posted December 16, 2003 His Ross. Can you give more details on which internal part of the slide you lighten and how? Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted December 16, 2003 Share Posted December 16, 2003 Lucas, Ross Carter (the guy that posted a comment) would be a good choice. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carter Posted December 16, 2003 Share Posted December 16, 2003 I make some fairly simple cuts on the inside of the slide in front of the locking lugs depending on how much weight reduction is needed. I also go inside the area where the scallops would be and hollow it out. I would recommend just lightening the slide first and see how you like it before lightening the frame. By doing the lightening internaly you can avoid refinishing if you want. Thanks, Rich. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted December 18, 2003 Share Posted December 18, 2003 Thanks for the reply Ross. I've been meaning to weigh my slide so I can accurately tell how much more it weighs over a standard 1911 slide. Holding both in my hands I can feel some considerable weight differences. But since it's already black chromed, I'm looking for other options to lighten it. However, i just realized you guys are running 165 PF (?) in your guns. Back here under IPSC rules I usually run around 174-179PF. You think slide lightening is wise with these power factors? Do you have a personal ball park figure on how much a slide should weigh optimally? Sorry for my questions. These lightening thoughts seem to be distracting me when I should instead be out practicing. Now if only I can put this to rest... Thanks again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ross Carter Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 A unique unscalloped slide weighs about 13 to 13 1/2 oz and a std slide usually weighs about 12. I know I being a little vague but they do vary. An ounce to ounce and a half difference doesn't sound like much but you have to consider the velocity of the slide. I think it gets down to what you like. Some like the softer feel of the heavy frame and slide and others like the harsher but faster feel of the lighter slide and frame guns. Some guys shoot the heavy frame with the scalloped slide! BE used to I think? I shoot a longslide lightened to 12 oz with a std frame, a 5 oz guide rod, a 180 grain bullet, and tightgroup. When you add in the load variations and they're too many variables to make sweeping statements. Try to shoot some different variations to see what you like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazos Custom Posted December 19, 2003 Share Posted December 19, 2003 Just for reference: STI slide Classic vs. Unique - 0.4 oz. difference STI standard frame 10.4 oz STI short wide frame 11.4 oz. STI Long wide 13.0 oz. Slides measured were completely bare no serrations no other cuts. Frames measured were complete frame/grip assembly with no frame cut. SV and Caspian numbers will vary slightly but not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R.K. Warren Posted December 21, 2003 Share Posted December 21, 2003 Lucas, I would definitely give Ross a call on this one (870-741-2265). He did this procedure to my long/wide awhile back. The gun will still feel soft, but will return to target MUCH faster and track MUCH straighter through the recoil cycle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mcoliver Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Thanks for the replies BC and Ross. I was finally able to borrow a weighing scale. I'm using a steel gun so the total unloaded weight is 1.2kg (~ 42oz.) The total lower end weight 100+ grams more than the total top end. The slide alone was 13oz and change. My smith seems hesitant to put holes on my slide. Told me to buy ammo instead and practice... Lucas, sorry for the thread hijack... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNsTeR Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 Anyone know what 6" slides weigh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brazos Custom Posted December 22, 2003 Share Posted December 22, 2003 6 inch STI w/stirrup cut no other cuts 15.0 oz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wide45 Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Rumor has it that these guys have established a traveling gunsmith service. Have your gun fixed wherever you are. Turnaround time so quick, it will be ready for the next stage. Transform your obsolete long comp gun into a state of the art shorty while you wait. Frame, Barrel, Comp shortening a specialty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Is the previous picture one of those "CNC" machines I keep reading about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MoNsTeR Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 So a 6" with no stirrup cut might weigh... 15.8oz or so? Is it reasonably possible to lighten that down to 12oz? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Larry White Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Oh yes, Bennie Hill builds a bunch or fat free 6 in guns with slides 12 oz or less. My 6 weighs 3/4 oz less than my 5in with no work on the frame. Both are s-i with bull barrels and classic slides.Larry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhgtyre Posted December 23, 2003 Share Posted December 23, 2003 Is the previous picture one of those "CNC" machines I keep reading about? CNC must stand for Carve 'N Chop! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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