Steve Koski Posted February 9, 2011 Share Posted February 9, 2011 (edited) In the early 90's I owned two different Glock 19 pistols. Both came with steel non-captured guide rods. Steel or plastic, what does it matter so long as the gun makes weight anyway? Just my two cents.... They didn't come from the factory with them fancy steel uncaptured guide rods. Edited February 9, 2011 by Steve Koski Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Forrest Halley Posted March 1, 2011 Share Posted March 1, 2011 In the early 90's I owned two different Glock 19 pistols. Both came with steel non-captured guide rods. Steel or plastic, what does it matter so long as the gun makes weight anyway? Just my two cents.... For STOCK service pistol it oughta be how that model came from the factory. If that model has anything factory that should make it illegal under the rules it should be upheld to be illegal. That way we don't have blacksheep and then we wouldn't have to worry about extended slide releases on all glocks being called a stock item. If there is any doubt as to the weapon's "stockness" welcome to ESP. As to your making weight I agree. If you are to ENHANCE the gun enhance it right up to the weight limit. If I have a plastic fantastic and I want to beef it up should be alright. A gun that weighs under 43oz is under 43oz. Moving weight around is an enhancement. STOCK should mean don't fool with it. No monkey business, under the hood shenanigans, or tomfoolery. Finagling would also violate STOCK. Sights, trigger, mags, grips, springs, and parts all factory spec. My .02, but who cares? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JD45 Posted March 26, 2012 Share Posted March 26, 2012 I just read 3 pages of this from 2009 saying, "wait till the 22RTF or RFD or whatever comes out and then we'll know!" Well, did it come out?? Or did Glock ever remember if they installed a steel rod? Some threads need updates for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ProGunGuy Posted May 18, 2012 Share Posted May 18, 2012 any update on this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4406pak Posted February 12, 2014 Share Posted February 12, 2014 (edited) I'd like to know the answer to this one as well... EDIT: Answered my own question per new rule book: 8.2.1.3. SSP Permitted Modifications (Inclusive list): 8.2.1.3.4. Recoil spring guide rods and dual spring recoil systems made of material that is no heavier than stainless steel. So steel guide rod is GTG. Edited February 12, 2014 by rr4406pak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomas H Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 8.2.1.3. SSP Permitted Modifications (Inclusive list): 8.2.1.3.4. Recoil spring guide rods and dual spring recoil systems made of material that is no heavier than stainless steel. So steel guide rod is GTG. You just can't put an aftermarket steel guide rod (with adapter) and spring into a Gen4 glock (which was originally a dual-spring recoil system), correct? Because that changes the type of recoil assembly, which is illegal according to: SSP Excluded Modifications 8.2.1.4.5. Slide inserts to accommodate a different recoil assembly design. ...or did they mean something else by that? Basically, can you put a captured-spring guide rod (with the front adapter so it works in Gen 4 Glocks) with an ISMI spring into a Gen 4 Glock and have it be legal in SSP? It isn't a change to the slide, it is an adapter on the guide rod. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 That is not clear at present. I suggest you submit it to IDPA clarifications. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glock3422 Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Do you mean to say that after all the long, hard, serious consideration by the Elite Tiger Team, it still isn't clear? Did they spend all their time on spelling, punctuation and numbering sentences? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Koski Posted February 13, 2014 Share Posted February 13, 2014 Is it clear to you? It's not clear to me of some of the products with built on adapters are legal. I could see the decision going either way. If it's built in to the new guide rod, is it a "slide insert?" I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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