outerlimits Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 so after ft benning, we all know what happens when you load more than the max in tactical. curious what happens if one were to load more than max in open. match dq? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouSlide Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 (edited) Unless I'm overlooking something, the only recourse that comes to mind under the rule book would be match DQ for Unsportsmanlike Conduct, in this case, cheating. 10.6.1 Competitors will be disqualified from a match for conduct which a Range Officer deems to be unsportsmanlike. Examples of unsportsmanlike conduct include, but are not limited to, cheating, dishonesty, failing to comply with the reasonable directions of a Match Official, or any behavior likely to bring the sport into disrepute. The Range Master must be notified as soon as possible. Anything else? Curtis Edited October 15, 2009 by BayouSlide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11.43mm Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 so after ft benning, we all know what happens when you load more than the max in tactical. curious what happens if one were to load more than max in open. match dq? I thought you had to shoot that round.? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouSlide Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 so after ft benning, we all know what happens when you load more than the max in tactical. curious what happens if one were to load more than max in open. match dq? I thought you had to shoot that round.? Under USPSA rules, Open's a maximum of 11 rounds loaded, or a maximum of 10 in the case of Rule 8.1.1.2. Curtis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nik Habicht Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 Unless I'm overlooking something, the only recourse that comes to mind under the rule book would be match DQ for Unsportsmanlike Conduct, in this case, cheating.10.6.1 Competitors will be disqualified from a match for conduct which a Range Officer deems to be unsportsmanlike. Examples of unsportsmanlike conduct include, but are not limited to, cheating, dishonesty, failing to comply with the reasonable directions of a Match Official, or any behavior likely to bring the sport into disrepute. The Range Master must be notified as soon as possible. Anything else? Curtis It's not a match dq --- but since the competitor is no longer compliant with any division, he's shooting for no score. Pretty much the same thing as going sub-minor in Production (or any other division, but production shooters are most at risk....) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouSlide Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 (edited) It's not a match dq --- but since the competitor is no longer compliant with any division, he's shooting for no score. Pretty much the same thing as going sub-minor in Production (or any other division, but production shooters are most at risk....) I thought I was missing something: thanks, Nik. Logical enough...especially if you put your brain fully in gear before typing. I love the rules forum: always end up learning something. Curtis Edited October 15, 2009 by BayouSlide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted October 15, 2009 Author Share Posted October 15, 2009 yep-6.2.5.1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
11.43mm Posted October 15, 2009 Share Posted October 15, 2009 HA! That would make a geat Tee shirt NOT COMPLIANT IN ANY DIVISION!!! And I might be able to stop wearing my "STAY BACK 100 FEET" Tee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kend Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 I saw Jerry using a mag tube that looked about 4 feet long, it stuck out waaay past the muzzle. I don't know which match it was but it was on TV on Shooting USA or something, what Division would that fit in? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
outerlimits Posted October 21, 2009 Author Share Posted October 21, 2009 I saw Jerry using a mag tube that looked about 4 feet long, it stuck out waaay past the muzzle. I don't know which match it was but it was on TV on Shooting USA or something, what Division would that fit in? every match except a uspsa match-in uspsa, we run limited 10 in open! go figure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscott Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 (edited) So when the Saiga guys pull out their 25 round drums they shoot for no score if the match is run under USPSA rules? Edited October 21, 2009 by mscott Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted October 21, 2009 Share Posted October 21, 2009 Haven't seen a 25-round drum... Depends on the match. If IPSC, no problem. If "outlaw," no problem. If USPSA, then they shoot for no score. Can't have more than 10 rounds (plus one in the chamber) in USPSA Open. Holdover from the Olde Klinton Daze, of course, and MV likes it so there it is. Not bashin', just sayin'... The Pan-Am Shotgun Match next year (run under IPSC rules, not USPSA) should be fun. Load 'em up, cowboys! Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bond Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 I saw Jerry using a mag tube that looked about 4 feet long, it stuck out waaay past the muzzle. I don't know which match it was but it was on TV on Shooting USA or something, what Division would that fit in? He was shooting open at the Ft Benning Three Gun which does not use USPSA rules. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mscott Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Haven't seen a 25-round drum... Alex Maybe it was a 20?? I don't remember for sure, but one thing I noticed is that it didn't run worth a crap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charles Bond Posted October 22, 2009 Share Posted October 22, 2009 Haven't seen a 25-round drum... Alex Maybe it was a 20?? I don't remember for sure, but one thing I noticed is that it didn't run worth a crap. Al Zeta had a special drum built for his shotgun which was featured in the Ft Benning coverage of Shooting USA and I think it held 23. He had only one and mentioned it was valued at about $3K. Of course if we all had the ability he has and the tooling to go with it, firearms technology would double about every 3 years. And by the way, anything Zeta brings to the range runs flawlessly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyH Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I saw Jerry using a mag tube that looked about 4 feet long, it stuck out waaay past the muzzle. I don't know which match it was but it was on TV on Shooting USA or something, what Division would that fit in? every match except a uspsa match-in uspsa, we run limited 10 in open! go figure! Silly rule, we don't limit pistol or rifle to 10 in open? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
M ammo Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 I saw Jerry using a mag tube that looked about 4 feet long, it stuck out waaay past the muzzle. I don't know which match it was but it was on TV on Shooting USA or something, what Division would that fit in? every match except a uspsa match-in uspsa, we run limited 10 in open! go figure! Silly rule, we don't limit pistol or rifle to 10 in open? +1 Open should be OPEN. Jim M ammo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gose Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 (edited) I can see how there's a place for L10 and the 10 round limit in Production, but the 10 round limit for Open in Shotgun is pretty silly... Has anyone seriously tried to get USPSA to change it? Edited October 30, 2009 by gose Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TonyH Posted October 30, 2009 Share Posted October 30, 2009 Yep, been ask to many times to even care anymore. Still no good reason why. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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