CSEMARTIN Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Is it legal in IDPA to place a non-threat target behind a threat target? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HoMiE Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Appendix 4 - E. On a shoot through of a non-threat target that also strikes a threat target, the contestant will get the penalty for the non-threat target hit AND will get credit for the scored hit on the threat target. The reverse also applies when a round on a threat target penetrates a non-threat behind it. Hence the rule of thumb: all shoot throughs count (except on hard cover). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve J Posted October 28, 2008 Share Posted October 28, 2008 Yes, but I would suggest doing so in moderation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Duane Thomas Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 It would also be a good idea to provide the shooter with at least some angle where they can, if they're alert to the problem, have the pass-throughs miss the no-shoot. NOTE: this can be hard to do and still maintain range safety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RickB Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 It is actually illustrated in the Safety Officer class materials, as part of the test. I have never seen it on the range, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bones Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 We use this set up routinely in the S&W league matches and at the Hartford Gun club. It is completely consistent with the rulebook and is no more or less difficult to set-up and run than having the NT in front of the threat. Craig Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 Is it legal in IDPA to place a non-threat target behind a threat target? Ok, new shooter here. Why would this be done? Stay Safe, A.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clyde Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 (edited) A.T. - The shooter must be aware of the target and what is beyond. Target is 10 yrds away and bullet travels 50yrds total you get credit for all damage. Edited October 29, 2008 by Clyde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
atbarr Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 A.T. - The shooter must be aware of the target and what is beyond.Target is 10 yrds away and bullet travels 50yrds total you get credit for all damage. Ok, I understand that. I misunderstood. I thought the NT was very close to the threat target. A.T. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberneck Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 We use this set up routinely in the S&W league matches and at the Hartford Gun club. It is completely consistent with the rulebook and is no more or less difficult to set-up and run than having the NT in front of the threat.Craig I can attest to that. The stage that you SO'd at the S&W Championships two years ago had a non-thret tucked behind a threat target. I should know because that was my last stage of the day and I hit the damn thing. At our local matches we will sometimes but a non-threat behind a popper. You wouldn't believe the number of people who see steel and hose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shooterready Posted October 29, 2008 Share Posted October 29, 2008 I would believe it is legal, but only if the shooters are allowed a proper walk through. Hiding a non-threat behind a threat and not allowing a walk through on that stage is devious and only penalizes the first few shooters through the COF. Therefore, skewing the results of that stage. IMO, this is not in the spirit of IDPA if it is done as stated above. I agree that the shooter should always know what is behind their intended target, but give them the chance to figure that out with a walk through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sirveyr Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I set-up a stage like this a few months ago. No one really b!tched about it, but they were very intrigued by the set-up. Many of the shooters had never even thought of NT's being behind threats. I think it is great twist on a stage. As stated bebore, just be sure to give the shooters room to get their angles and miss the NT. BTW, walk throughs are for sissies! Just hose and go, if it's brown, it's down! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prreed10 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I think it is a great idea. I might have to use that in our next match. Want to make some shooters upset? Put a non-threat behind a popper. I did it a couple months ago and I have been hearing about it ever since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nwb01 Posted October 30, 2008 Share Posted October 30, 2008 I set-up a stage like this a few months ago. No one really b!tched about it, but they were very intrigued by the set-up. Many of the shooters had never even thought of NT's being behind threats. I think it is great twist on a stage. As stated bebore, just be sure to give the shooters room to get their angles and miss the NT. BTW, walk throughs are for sissies! Just hose and go, if it's brown, it's down! I had the opportunity to shoot the stage that Sirveyr is referring to. It intrigued my interest as I had never seeing this done before. Sirveyr set the stage up properly by allowing ample room for shooters to move in order to get their angles right and miss the NT. No one bitched about it because we were too busy bitching about that other guys shoot/reload debacle!!!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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