JKSNIPER Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Working in L.E. you get to meet all kinds of fudged up people. Usually when they are not exactly at their stellar best but still they amaze you with just how fudged up they are. Now on TV we have people saying they will not leave the areas being forcast as "Certain death" if they stay there. These people need to be culled from the herd. They will otherwise breed and dumb down the human race. Sorry but as a rescue guy I have had to rescue people from all kinds of stupidity. A guy that dropped his transmisson....on his chest, hurst tooled people out of countless car wrecks, a guy trapped in a collapsed cesspool, rescued animals from their owners or in spite of their owners, and even rescued baby ducks from a storm drain. I felt pity for those people because they had no prior warning (well maybe the transmission idiot should have known what would happen) of their accidents or what was going to happen to them and they needed our help. If you're advised to evacuate an area and choose to ignore the evac order then you kind of deserve what you get. Don't call the coast guard or L.E. or firemen to save your dumbass..you got yourself into this shite...get yourself out of it. Don't risk the lives of these men because you were too stupid or stubborn to listen to good advice. Just like that idiot living up at Mt St Helens who is now buried under about 100+ feet of volcano ghak. OK....taking deep breaths now....going to the happy place..... JK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jake Di Vita Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Don't call the coast guard or L.E. or firemen to save your dumbass..you got yourself into this shite...get yourself out of it. Exactly. I'm way against the nanny state and people telling me what I should do "for my own good" - but I'm also a firm believer in one being held accountable for their actions. You don't want to leave? No problem, but you're on your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FranDoc Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Personal responsibility ... what a concept ... (too many years in EMS, high angle, cave rescue, rigging/extrication, medevac, & ER). Reference separate thread re: General Honore': http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...c=70991&hl=. I can only imagine what he'd say on the matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scirocco38s Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Look guys, this is a Darwin example. This is an example of survival of the fittest or in these peoples case, the least intelligent. No effort, repeat, no effort should be made to extract or help these people in any way. And if the pussies that say I am being cold and harsh dont like it then they can go save them. Let them put their words into actions. After 10 or 20 of those touchy, feely types die trying to save them, I bet their attitude about the situation will be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BigDave Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 You don't want to leave? No problem, but you're on your own. +1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiG Lady Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 People either haven't the envisioning/mental capacity to begin with or aren't being taught to think AHEAD... to think about ANY consequences of their actions, to think beyond their noses, to forsee the obvious (in many cases), or to think critically and logically in the first place. Jeez. Again, the gene pool appears to need a little dose of chlorine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouSlide Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 Don't call the coast guard or L.E. or firemen to save your dumbass..you got yourself into this shite...get yourself out of it. Exactly. I'm way against the nanny state and people telling me what I should do "for my own good" - but I'm also a firm believer in one being held accountable for their actions. You don't want to leave? No problem, but you're on your own. My feelings as well...I evaluate each storm and haven't evacuated in any thus far. Then again, I'm above storm surge, experienced (by now) and well prepped. Wasn't asking for help before and not asking for it later if I misjudged. My home, my decision, my responsibility. Nothing to be taken lightly or by the clueless. Curtis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowndog Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 The saying within the community is,.........."you can't fix stupid" Trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AikiDale Posted September 13, 2008 Share Posted September 13, 2008 I don't know guys and gals. If the talking head from the TV station can stand there in the hurricane force winds with debris flying past at 100 mph and not need to be rescued I think I could sit at home in front of the fireplace without needing to be rescued.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouSlide Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I don't know guys and gals. If the talking head from the TV station can stand there in the hurricane force winds with debris flying past at 100 mph and not need to be rescued I think I could sit at home in front of the fireplace without needing to be rescued.... If I ever was asked by a news crew why I didn't evacuate, I'd just reply "I live here...what the heck are YOU doing here." Curtis Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiG Lady Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 One's ability to survive these kinds of 'disasters' can depend entirely on a whole lot of variables in combination... like the relative strength of the structure you're living in, your elevation, your proximity to ANY body of water, your local population base's demands on resources and the extent of local supporting community services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scooterj Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 The saying within the community is,.........."you can't fix stupid"Trapr Trapr, "you can't fix stupid" is only the first half.........."you can't teach common sense" is the 2nd half. Got to use these two together!!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowndog Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 i like it!!!! trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
5Shot Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 I'm with the .... "Don't tell me what to do" crowd, but I take full responsibility for myself. NO WAY would I endanger myself or my family!!!!! You get what's coming to you if you are too low in the Gene Pool to know better....natural selection at work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigbrowndog Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 knowing full well that the media likes to exaggerate circumstances for dramatic effect, I have no problem with letting "your" common sense dictate your actions. however, our job is to protect and serve our taxpayers and when you call we come, unless coming to your aid would create more rescuees, we answer the call. We don't generally have the luxury of saying "hey, I told you so!!!!" trapr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKSNIPER Posted September 14, 2008 Author Share Posted September 14, 2008 Sig Lady , I like that "chlorine in the gene pool" comment! NICE! JK Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiG Lady Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Hee-hee....! Too bad it isn't as easy as that. Dang. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j1b Posted September 14, 2008 Share Posted September 14, 2008 Personal responsibility ... what a concept ... (too many years in EMS, high angle, cave rescue, rigging/extrication, medevac, & ER).Reference separate thread re: General Honore': http://www.brianenos.com/forums/index.php?...c=70991&hl=. I can only imagine what he'd say on the matter. I don't presume to know what great men will say. If I were to hazard a guess though I believe he'd say something to the effect of "don't get stuck on stupid" Accountability. Unfortunately it is literally a more foreign concept. I'm with most others. I believe I'd stay. I'm not there so I can't say for certain. I'd also assume that I'd prepared for something like this to happen. Regardless, if I did stay I'd fully expect accountability for that action. If I were to be ignorant in that circumstance then nobody but me should pay that bill. J Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JKSNIPER Posted September 15, 2008 Author Share Posted September 15, 2008 GUys , Everyone says they will be personally accountable for thier actions ...until they're staring at their own possible demise at which point they all do the same thing......"HELP!" Human nature. If you're advised to evacuate...then evacuate. The weather witches and warlocks may well be wrong and the storm may not be that bad and people will say "See I could have rode this one out." It also could go the other way. A little inconvience is no big deal. We were out of our house years ago due to a large wildfire here in the pine barrens area. The police came and told everyone to get out. We packed up the truck/car with pictures and stuff to use and went to my sister in laws house where we stayed for a week. It was not fun but the alternative could be much worse. JK Mods please close this thread. Thank you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted September 15, 2008 Share Posted September 15, 2008 For future reference: From the Hate Forum guidelines:Please type "CLOSED" as the last line of your initial post, if you do not want anyone to post in your thread (and a Moderator will lock your thread). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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