scooterdog Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Okay, as the title says, I am just venting but when is this price war against the civilian shooter going to end? I just came back from Walmart and in one week Remington 223 55 gr fmj box of 20 went from $6.47 to $7.50. An increase of 15%. This is an addition to going from around $5 in January of '07 to $6.47 by August of '07. Another increase of 25%. Some more examples: Blazer reloadable .45 230 gr box of 50 - in January of '07 it was 8.50, now it is $12. An increase of 30%. Winchester 9mm 115 fmj box of 100 was $12 in January of '06, now it is $16. Another increase of 25%. And the manufacturers are talking about another increase in January of '08. How much is going to be enough for these sobs? First the cost was blamed on lead. Well, lead has dropped over 30% in the last 2 months. Now the war is to blame. Whats next? Anybody want to bet the ammo companies will have record profits this year? I mean, I am all for staying loyal to our manufacturers, but it is getting harder and harder to do when every time I pick up ammo, I feel like I am getting a$$raped. Ammo purchases might be easier if the manufacturers would tape a little tube of vaseline to each box. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coolduckboy Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I don't mind the 9mm prices for right now since i am able to afford it but even reloading .40 and .38 super is getting way out of hand for lead prices and i don't dare buy it from walmart unless it is 180gr Blazer Brass ammo but my Edge won't shoot it. Hopefully something changes, and changes soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boz1911 Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 First the cost was blamed on lead. Well, lead has dropped over 30% in the last 2 months. Now the war is to blame. Whats next? Anybody want to bet the ammo companies will have record profits this year? The real problem is, once an item goes up it rarely if ever goes back down in price. Taxes are my personal pet peeve, they are percentage based yet always go up, never down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LPatterson Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Last Blue Press said "Heads Up price increase Jan 1". Do not expect ammunition prices to fluctuate like gas just because a commodity like lead went down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dajarrel Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 I'm afraid that as long as I'll pay $28.00 for a 1000 federal primers that the industry will not lower the price back to the $15.00 it was 18 months ago. Only if there becomes a surplus, will the price come back down...and then, probably not back to 2005 prices. kinda sucks, doesn't it? dj Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joecichlid Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Do what I did, contact the manufacturers and let your voice be heard. It may not help much but it sure as heck doesn't hurt. We whine and moan about it to each other but the only way we can do anything is to get in touch with those who actually make what we need. Joe W. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiG Lady Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 "...kinda sucks, doesn't it?..." More like "majorly sucks" in my book..... The whole issue has put a HUGE dent in my ability to shoot at all frequently. I feel like I went from "Serious Participant" to "Dabbler." Jeez. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carlos Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Okay, as the title says, I am just venting but when is this price war against the civilian shooter going to end? I just came back from Walmart and in one week Remington 223 55 gr fmj box of 20 went from $6.47 to $7.50. An increase of 15%. This is an addition to going from around $5 in January of '07 to $6.47 by August of '07. Another increase of 25%. Some more examples: Blazer reloadable .45 230 gr box of 50 - in January of '07 it was 8.50, now it is $12. An increase of 30%. Winchester 9mm 115 fmj box of 100 was $12 in January of '06, now it is $16. Another increase of 25%. And the manufacturers are talking about another increase in January of '08. How much is going to be enough for these sobs? First the cost was blamed on lead. Well, lead has dropped over 30% in the last 2 months. Now the war is to blame. Whats next? Anybody want to bet the ammo companies will have record profits this year? I mean, I am all for staying loyal to our manufacturers, but it is getting harder and harder to do when every time I pick up ammo, I feel like I am getting a$$raped. Ammo purchases might be easier if the manufacturers would tape a little tube of vaseline to each box. Well, this is not a hate thread & I am not posting a rebuttle - actually I agree the prices seem somehow out of line even with the price of gas as it is. But there are ways to save $$ reloading that would have been unthinkable a few years back. For example: You stated: ".45 Blazer reloadable" I take it you mean brass. Well I have reloaded the aluminum stuff (the center-post is hard on the decapping pin though). It works. Its cheap. It takes some of the pain out of lost brass matches. Steel Wolf .45 and .223 cases - also boxer and reloadable. Everyon noticed by now that primers are about $120 per 5K when you can even find them? I don't pay that. Fact is, the Wolf primers are less than $100 and they are BETTER than all but the Federal primers. Put aside the snobbery & realize the Russians KNOW how to build good stuff when they want; noticed who wins all the Olympic gold metals in shooting? FInally - bulk. Get organized. If enough guys get together, there should be some savings there If this all seems a bit too much stinginess, then quickly calculate your price for reloads or factory ammo if you bought TODAY vs. 2 or 3 years ago. I bet your costs have doubled. Mine certainly have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted December 16, 2007 Share Posted December 16, 2007 Yes the costs have gone up. I am also combating the increase by adding more .22 practice. Now I just need to get a dryfire routine down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaG Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Several of us got a group buy from Valiant. He delivered to us yesterday and we tried to get another order. He said that the price of lead did come down but now the sources are "drying up". He said he was currently 6 mos. behind. That damn supply and demand thing again...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flexmoney Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Wouldn't it be great if the CMP program...ah...nevermind. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 My advise... Buy now in large bulk orders. In 2 years we will look at todays prices and say...woulda coulda why din't I.... and then boohoo... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangerat Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Only if there becomes a surplus, will the price come back down...and then, probably not back to 2005 prices.dj If the Dems win the election and take us out of Iraq, based upon current production, there will be a major surplus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Merlin Orr Posted December 17, 2007 Share Posted December 17, 2007 Only if there becomes a surplus, will the price come back down...and then, probably not back to 2005 prices.dj If the Dems win the election and take us out of Iraq, based upon current production, there will be a major surplus. Rangerat... Where were you born? What's your Dad's name? We seem to bear a rather striking resemblance to each other...Could you be my long lost......... Naw.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bulm540 Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I have switched to lead for practice. So far so good. I just have to clean the gun more often. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 surlus of lead products. <- Insert homer simpson esque AHHHHHHH here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mick Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 "If the Dems win the election and take us out of Iraq, based upon current production, there will be a major surplus." Don't look for that to happen. Hillary has actually backed off on getting out now because she knows she won't be allowed to do so. They have to go into IRAN first. Clinton depleated the military for so long that they will be building up for years and then there is the IRAN thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BayouSlide Posted December 18, 2007 Share Posted December 18, 2007 I used to be worried about the price increases in ammo components so I stocked 'em deep as I could afford...but now that I just received a notice of a 40 percent price increase in my medical insurance, I have other things to worry about As Woodie Guthrie rightly noted, in a song from an earlier time, "How can a poor man stand such times and live?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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