outerlimits Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 got one of those yard long nordic tubes and while practicing reloads (great idea btw to have a removable end cap), i was stuffing from homemade 6 & 5 round sticks. and with the new 8 round sticks, i can't see how any RO is going to know when someone loads more than 10+1. so the question is, why does uspsa have appendix D1 #9? it's supposed to be open, not limited 10. and yes, i do have a plug for uspsa matches... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 Well the RO's keep track of 10+1 in pistols all the time here in hawaii, and issue penalties, not to mention it's a felony here, so I dont imagine it would be much harder with a Shotgun. But I agree open should be open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jaxshooter Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 They should just limit the length of the magazine extension like they do the pistol mags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maineshootah Posted October 24, 2007 Share Posted October 24, 2007 got one of those yard long nordic tubes and while practicing reloads (great idea btw to have a removable end cap), i was stuffing from homemade 6 & 5 round sticks. and with the new 8 round sticks, i can't see how any RO is going to know when someone loads more than 10+1. so the question is, why does uspsa have appendix D1 #9? it's supposed to be open, not limited 10.and yes, i do have a plug for uspsa matches... Well, if you have a tube that is waaaaay past the end of the barrel.. that might be a sign. Or if the gun goes bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang bang that would be a sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
uscbigdawg Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Tube length would be a good guide, but not the perfect solution. As for tube length being an indicator, it's all relative to barrel length. My 10 round tube on my Remmy is about at the muzzle. My 15 round tube is about 8-12" past. Still not in the realm of silly compared to some. My 10+1 tube on my Benelli is past the muzzle about 6". So it's perception relative to barrel length. After hearing the news of the SMM3G this year, IF I go to this match again (as it seems to have taken a decline since the departure of El Furbee) I'll be packin' both shotties to see which will work better for the match designed. Rich Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe4d Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 109 ? I'm at 111 !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakal Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Tube length? Who cares? My usual 18" gun holds 21. Heck, my new 8" holds 21 too Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maineshootah Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 (edited) Tube length would be a good guide, but not the perfect solution. . Oh I agree, it is just a guide. If I see a 26" barrel and a tube that is 4-8" past it, I always ask the shooter about capacity. Could they lie? Sure. However, it is a starting point. If I get a less-than-100%-honest answer I can always pay attention to how many shellls are getting stuffed into it. Knowing the stage and targets, round count, etc.. would all play into knowing the shooter is adding more than they should. So it's perception relative to barrel length.Rich Right on, the RO needs to BE perceptive! Edited October 25, 2007 by maineshootah Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cpty1 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 While the tube length on a gun may suggest or even make it obvious that the tube could hold more than the division legal limit, remember it could also be plugged to prevent too many rounds from being loaded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wombat Posted November 8, 2007 Share Posted November 8, 2007 Open should mean open! The other thing that I don't like is the automatic bump to open for using a detachable mag feed shotgun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kingman Posted November 9, 2007 Share Posted November 9, 2007 we don't apparently really have open shotgun the way I read it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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